| drewski |
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| 05/03/07 07:17 AM |
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If it had to be a loomis?
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Ok, here is the situation. I have the opportunity to pick up a loomis spey rod at a substantial savings..So much so that it would be my cheapest option into a two hander. So my first question is, what loomis rod would you recomend for a beginner? I currently am a fairly proficient caster with a one hander. I will most likely be using it for summer/fall steel and silvers.
I have been eyeing these 2 models:
Glx 6/7 12'9"
Glx 0r Kispiox 7/8 13'4"
Which of these do you think would be better? Is the kispiox inferior to the glx? Can they handle tips well?
Sorry for all the questions but like I said its a great deal and I need to jump on board to make it happen.
Oh yeah, as far as a reel is concerned, I was looking at Teton Tiogas. What size would I need to hold the line? 10LA? What lines would accompany this rod well?
Thanks,
Drew
| Mojo |
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| 05/03/07 03:11 PM |
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Drewski,
If you are only going to have one rod, go with the 7/8. Go cast them. Get some help, and line up both the GLX and the Kispiox, and go throw them. Everyone has different preferences, because your casting style is different. You won't know what you need until you actually throw line with them. For silvers and steelies, you will want something heavier than a 6/7.
| Mojo |
| (Sturgeon Trainer) |
| 05/03/07 03:12 PM |
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I'm no expert, but I was in exactly your shoes a year ago. I love the rod I have, and will own a few more in the next few years. It's addictive.
| drewski |
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| 05/03/07 08:53 PM |
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Yeah, I was kind of leaning towards the 7/8 as well..I'm most curious to see what is the major difference between the Kispiox and GLX.
Anyone else care to chime in on this?? Would love to get line and reel reccomendations from you spey regulars.
Thanks,
Drew
| Mojo |
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| 05/03/07 09:16 PM |
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Call Poppy at the Redshed. Do a Google on Redshed Fly Shop. He'll be able to fill you in. Mike is good people, and is a regular on this board (REDSHED). He's also the only guy I would go to for unbiased opinions of different flyrods. He will at the minimum be able to steer you to someone that is well versed on both rods...
| Verne |
| (chum) |
| 05/04/07 08:44 AM |
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Re: If it had to be a loomis?
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It would be best if you could try them first before you decided, either would be fine for steelhead or silvers. The 6/7 will easily handle steelhead, it is equivalent to about a 8/9 wt.single handed rod. You will no doubt prefer one to the other if you cast both however.
I would suggest you get a larger Tioga at least a magnum regular arbor 10, preferably a 12.
| Mojo |
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| 05/04/07 08:34 PM |
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Verne, I have the Tioga Magnum 12 on my spey and it is perfect. Good call. A 10 LA won't hold enough backing.
| fredaevans |
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| 05/07/07 08:12 AM |
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Quote:
Mojo said:
Call Poppy at the Redshed. Do a Google on Redshed Fly Shop. He'll be able to fill you in. Mike is good people, and is a regular on this board (REDSHED). He's also the only guy I would go to for unbiased opinions of different flyrods. He will at the minimum be able to steer you to someone that is well versed on both rods...
Second vote here with Mojo; With Poppy/wife this weekend at the Sandy River Spey 'Clave. That said, he should be back in Peck, Idaho in a couple of days.
Another excellent place for your question would be the 'Spey Pages' Board ... it's all spey stuff.
Fred
| REDSHED |
| (steelie) |
| 05/07/07 11:07 PM |
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Whether the 6/7 or the 7/8 the Kispiox is much slower/ softer then the GLX. This is not really a bad thing just a fact. I like pretty traditional actioned rods but the Kispiox is a little to traditional actioned for me. It is not inferior to the GLX just much softer. It will handle tips alright if the are matched to the rod /line grain window.
As to a reel for the 6/7 rod the Tioga 10 standard arbor will work well. It is a bit small for the 7/8 but will work if one chops some running line. The 12 would be better on the 7/8 rod but in my opinion the magnum is to heavy. Not right or wrong just what I've found. Please remember we all have different preceptions as to what the magic stick/reel/line setup is. A little more money but the Lamson Radius 4 will work nicely on either rod with plenty of 30# backing.
What type of line system do you have in mind? These rods work very well with skagit setups or short head spey lines.
| drewski |
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| 05/08/07 07:18 AM |
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Hmmm...I too like a more traditional rod action myself. In my collection of single handers i love the loading of the slower action rods but sometimes it gets a little sloppy if you know what I mean. I've found that by using over lined tips for my fast action rod that it seems to nuetralize the faster action and make it more to my slower action preference without going too soft if that makes sense. So I guess that is what I'm looking for as well in a two hander; faster action but mayber with a little over lining to slow her down a little. I would prefer to fish tips; definetely will be getting a multi tip system. I dont really se myself ever fishing a floater.Starting to sound like the GLX might be the way to go.
Thanks,
Drew
| Verne |
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| 05/08/07 11:02 AM |
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Loomis has a large pro-staff of qualified casters at all of the events and claves. They could give you a great deal of practical hands on help and advice. You could probably contact them through the spey pages forum also.
There is nothing like trying various setups yourself, because what I like might be wrong for you. Expert casting advice also will shorten your learning curve, it takes awhile even if you are a proficient single handed caster. Let us know how you are doing.