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Ive heard rumors that people have been seen fishing the lower puke already. These people forgetting to read their reg books or what?
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Have you been hearing Commencement Bay at the mouth or the actual river?
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The nets have been in for at least a week. There are probably "sports fisherpeople" who haven't read the always changing regs. lately.
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Or they are fishing for that elusive Puyallup R. summer steelhead. Yeah, right.
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on my to and from work i have seen the nets a few times, and some cars on the bank a couple of times but no poles. poeple just looking at the water?
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I have seen a couple of knuckleheads fishing it around the first of august. There is always a few in the crowd.
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Hey people, not be rude, but one of those people fishing is me. And yes I am fishing for salmon or steelhead or whatever jumps on my hook. But when I do catch one I am not keepin it unless it is a hatchery steelhead. The regs say the river does not open to keep salmon until september first, but it doesn't say that you can't catch and release until then, so quit whinning. Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention that this knucklehead(as described by kongelaks) is also using a single barbless hook just like the regs say to do. So go ahead, call Fish and Game if you want, but when they get down there and see that I'm not doing anything illegal, they are going to be very disappointed.
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I would submit that the disappointment will be when you are in court explaining why your using obvious salmon gear and saying that your fishing for Trout. There are no summer run steelhead in the Puyallup. Catch and release of an out of season specie dosen't stand up in court. Single barbless hooks are fine, for Salmon. Not required for Trout. Your gear suggests intent to the cops. If you have the time and money to sit in court, that is your choice. Let us know how you turn out.
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Trouthead, that is where you are wrong my friend. The Puyallup does have a small run of summer hatchery steelhead even if WDFW doesn't plant them.I have seen them. You should call the Go-Fish-N tackle shop on main street in puyallup and talk to the owner, Rawleigh Hedrick, he will set you straight about the no summer-run theory.
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The Puyallup does have a small run of summer hatchery steelhead even if WDFW doesn't plant them.I have seen them.
I'm sure they are eay to spot in the "dialed-in" brown puke. Sounds like your trying hard to justify your actions. What your selling...nobody is buying.
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floatandjig: You can't target a species if they are not open, even if you just CnR. And about Summer runs? There might be some strays.
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Hey floatandjig,
Check out page 26 of the WA fishing regs: "All FRESHWATER areas are CLOSED to fishing for SALMON ... unless listed as open in Special Rules"
My interpretation of "CLOSED to fishing" includes a prohibition of catch and release for salmon on the Puyallup until it opens for salmon. The Special Rules for salmon, which identifies the dates for the open season in any particular freshwater area, is not restricted to just fishing to "possess/keep" fish, but is also inclusive of CNR.
I don't like your chances before a judge if you challenged a ticket for CNR salmon fishing.
Oh yeah, not that it makes a difference in this discussion, but I am a lawyer...
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Redhook,and anyone else who doesn't believe me, dial (253) 840-9802 and ask this guy if there are summer runs in the puyallup. He runs a shop right next to the river, and he's the one that told me a few summer runs were being caught. If they didn't want people to fish the river right now then they should have closed it for every species.
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I stop in the tackle shop and talk to Raleigh, no question, he is a good guy and I like to support the local business. But, he is in the business of selling tackle.....and why the paper even reports on the puyallup during the summer is a waste of ink. Now, beginning sept 1st...different story 
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Floatandjig:
You are misreading my post. All I said is that the river is closed to SALMON. It is open to TROUT, which includes summer steelhead. You are not going to get in trouble if you are clearly using steelhead and/or trout gear to intentionally target steelhead and/or trout.
However, if you are intentionally targeting SALMON, even if CNR, you're breaking the law. If you are intentionally targeting steelhead, which admittedly uses some tackle/gear that is usable with salmon, you are NOT breaking the law (assuming that you do release any incidentally caught salmon).
In contrast, using steelhead fishing as a DISGUISE for salmon fishing (even if CNR) is clearly a violation.
You can call the Dept and ask them a slight variation to your original question (rather than simply, "Are there summer runs in the Puyallup"): "Is CNR of salmon during closed salmon seasons legal or illegal?" I can almost guarantee that they will say "illegal".
With regards to your comment that they "would have closed the entire river if they did not want people fishing in it", check out all of the other rivers in the region, such as the Skagit, Stilly, etc. that are currently open for steelhead but generally do not open for salmon until Sept. They have not "closed these rivers entirely to fishing"
One interesting thing to note: the help desk at the Dept of FW is staffed by persons, who like us, only interpret the rules and try to enforce them. It is ultimately the judge that will decide on the correct interpretation. It is not uncommon for the FW help desk to give an incorrect answer.
Edited by Baitsoaker (08/18/04 11:11 AM)
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Baitsoaker, how are they going to determine whether you are fishing for sttelhead or salmon. You have to use large salmon type gear no matter what your fishing for because of the lack of water clarity. In this colored water, I'm not going to catch a steelhead on small #14 corkies and a piece of shrimp like I would use on clearer rivers.
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Floatandjig:
It is ultimately up to your own personal ethics. I value this sport too much to risk breaking the law, just for the thrill of catching an out-of-season species.
The field officers will use their discretion to determine whether you are fishing for SH or salmon. "Intent" is indeed a gray area, particularly since steelhead and salmon tackle are similar, if not identical, under many conditions. You're probably not going to have a problem with the enforcement officials and the judge if you can, with a clear conscience, tell them that you are targeting steelhead, and that you are not targeting salmon and plan on releasing any incidentally caught salmon. But if you tell them explicitly that you are INTENTIONALLY targeting salmon, that's where the trouble begins.
I wish I can give better advice than that, but like I said, discretion of the officers and determining intent is not an exact science...
How about just taking a break from the Puyallup until Sept? Sept is not too far away.
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#10 Corkie is the biggest I've ever used in the Puyallup, even before Bolt. I like #12's for Salmon or Steelhead no matter what the color is in the Puyallup.
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I had no idea this would turn into a bitch fest, but for the last few years I have fished the lower puyallup almost every day of the week for a two month stretch and have never seen or heard of a summer steelhead being caught.
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I'm not going to catch a steelhead on small #14 corkies and a piece of shrimp like I would use on clearer rivers.
I have to agree with TroutHead on this one. Even in the muddiest of Sept. water on the Puyallup I will use #14's or smaller, perhaps doubled up. It has always been very productive and no these fish are not flossed. 
As for the regs, I would say your sticking your neck out there. Most Judges are going to side with the fact that the waters are closed to Salmon until September 1st. As a true sportsman you should respect the fact that they are trying to protect the Chinook Runs. Ya it sucks that we can't fish in August on the Puy. I've been fishing that river since I was 12, but there will still be plenty of fish come September.
As for Summer Steel, I say a few very early Fish if anything, like maybe 3. Heck they only got less then 50 winter-run fish at the hatchery this year, so summer run, I doubt it. 
Floatajig, your first few post on this board where ones to get people fired up. You threw out some info on the Cow and then said it was to see peoples reactions. So, you got them and then tried to say that is not your normal tone. I think it is. Your always posting stuff, then trying to prove to everyone how wrong we all are. I'm not sure what you are trying to do but I think there is a better way of gaining respect on this board...
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Trouthead, that is where you are wrong my friend. The Puyallup does have a small run of summer hatchery steelhead even if WDFW doesn't plant them.I have seen them.
So how many summer runs and how many salmon have you caught?
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Firefish, your catching salmon not steelhead. When I'm steelhead fishing, there are hardly any fish in the river. When the salmon get in there, I've seen practically anything work. I usually use two #12 orange corkies with red yarn and some kind of scent for steelhead or salmon in this river. That's why they should have closed the river for all species until sept. first if saving the chinook is really what they are trying to do. Instead of bit#$ing at me, you guys should try and crack down on the people who are exclusively after chinook and retaining them. And I do understand that they are trying to protect the chinook, that is why I said if I had caught one that it would have went back anyway. What I'm basically trying to say is that I'm after steelhead, but if a salmon strikes, I ain't gonna be pissed. I get the fight, and then the fish goes back into the river to spawn. And I'm sorry if the cowlitz thing affended you, but I still think that anybody can drag a bait on the cow and catch fish. The only skill involved is the person controlling the boat and keeping it at the right speed etc.
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I've caught one summer run and no salmon so far this year. And redhook, when I said "I've seen them" I meant dead on the bank by other fishermen who caught them. You obviously can't see them swimming in the river.
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Neurosis, most of them are caught in the upper puyallup or carbon, but I've heard of people catching them lower when they were in better shape and fresh from the ocean.
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FloataJig, Your Cow thing didn't offend me, as I usually don't fish the Cow. Yes I went down for the Cowtilla and took my boys camping, had enjoyment out of watching my kids hook steelhead and spent time with a lot of board members who are worth spending time with.
I think if you are really after summer runs, then fish a few of the rivers that produce summer runs worth chasing. I'm not talking the cow, I'm talking low clear water where presentation is everything and the pursue of the fish is where it is at.
You said when fishing for summers on the Puy, if you hook a Salmon it's worth the fight or you'll take the fight, something like that. Well go fish for summers on a river where summers are and if you are successful you'll have the fight your looking for.
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Floatnjig, there is quite a few species in the Puyallup. But not in big enough quantities to warrant trying to target (you'd have better luck on other rivers for summerruns). I've fished this river all my live, and grew up a few blocks off of it in fact. My first steelhead came off it almost 30 years ago. BUT, there has NEVER been much of a summerrun in it for as long as I can remember (maybe before I was born probably). But we'd always turn south or to the coast for summerruns. Plus, just because one owns a shop on/near the river, doesn't mean it's a "given". Yes, there are summerruns upriver, I've caught them when I worked in McMillan years ago. But if you're fishing when obviously there are salmon coming in, chances are you're gonna get nailed. Luckily for me, I fish the lower end, so the gear used for kings vs. steelhead are MUCH different. So no doubt what you're fishing for just by looking at the tackkle.
Oh, and by chance are the people down on the lower end (in the dyke area on N. Levee) cleaning out their plunking holes? We would always head down and start cleaning out our plunking holes for salmon and steelhead (we'd hit them in different spots) right around August. Which, growing up, we would hit fish in first of August while we cleaned out our fishing holes (we'd set up a rod while we were doing it, since we were cleaning out around it), but wouldn't really start hitting hot until the fair opened.
I agree with the rest. So far, you've done alot of "troll" posts to date. If you didn't plan on it, well you are. I realize you are young, but what you "think" is legal, will probably land you in court with a blemish on your record and a nice fine. There's a difference between your beliefs and "reality". Especially when their have been people who have been proclaiming (and those are the same who've bitched the most about the closure in the first place) that they'll start "Summerrun fishing the Puyallup lol". Well, I'm sure there are enforcement officers who read these forums. And chances are, they are prepared to pretty much give all those who want to try and "skirt" the law a rude awakening. But why risk the chance to do it?
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Firefish, I do fish rivers such as the green, and the Kalama on the weekends, but I fish the Puyallup during the week because it is so close to my home, and if I have an hour or two to kill, then that's the river I fish. Steelheader69, I don't care if the run is small or not, it is worth trying because I enjoy fishing unpressured waters and there are very few people fishing because "Your better off fishing a river with more fish". Well, hooking one steelhead a month would make me happy since I don't have to fish elbow to elbow to do it. I am sorry about the negetivty in my post however, and I will try to tone it down, I just get angry when people call others knuckleheads for fishing a river that doesn't have a great run, and the runs are intermixed. My main reason for this is just to get away from the crowds. And you get smaller crowds when there are fewer fish around and you have to work for them.
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FnJ, not going to debate this with you. Most people want to fish rivers uncrowded, and there are plenty of places to go that will give you that, with better runs of summerruns in it. But calling knuckleheads isn't referring to those fishing summerruns, it's those fishing SALMON under the pretenses that they're fishing steelhead. There's a difference between working hard and working smart. But you said you don't like people who call people names for fishing rivers that don't have a great run. Well, the Puyuallup doesn't even have what you'd call a so so run. It's got an extremely poor run of summerruns. Seems you have your mind set, and that's it. So if you want to fish it, fish it. But most who've been around the block leave what fish are in there this time of year alone (as in summerruns).
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Steel69, I'm fishing for steelhead with salmon being an accidental catch. I'm not trying to turn salmon fishing into steelhead fishing. But I'm also not going to stop because the illegal chinook are in the river. I will just let them go. I don't need them anyway. Lets start a new topic!
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this seems kinda strange that folks are making such a huge deal over some one trying to catch steelies and enjoying C&R salmon if they bite.
i've seen more then my share of posts on this board of folks going to the skagit to fish summer steelies and hammering the kings. so what's the differance?
not say i agree or disagree with the tacktic but it's all the same.
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My thought is that all of you that are baggin on a guy for fishing for steelhead and catchin a few kings and releasing them are hypocrits!
Think about it all of you catch and release native steelhead where they must be released right? Its the same frickin thing! If the fish are being released these guys are doing no more harm then when you catch a nate steel and release it!
Bug the $hit out of me when people act like goody 2 shoes!!!
If its open for summerruns its LEGAL to fish the river NOW!
if they were wanting all the kings in that system to be left alone seems to me the whole river system should be CLOSED to any fishing!
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Timber, sorry, it's NOT the same thing. I think most are talking about targeting salmon under the pretenses they are fishing steelhead (what I was refering to). But a closed season is a closed season. Especially when some of the people fishing them right now are fishing the lower Puy (in the dyke area) where the salmon are pooling up. For the most part, most rivers are open most of the time when multiple species are in. But you RARELY EVER see guys in past or present fishing the Puy in July/August in years past, except those getting ready for salmon season. Problem is, when you talk about the lower Puyallup, Aug/Sept is salmon season there, has been for years. I've rarely met a person there to target "steelhead". I'm more on the "intent" of the person fishing. Problem is, most of the time these people are catching multiples of salmon and NOT moving from the slot. Once that happens, they're targeting them. They can C&R all they want, as long as it's OPEN for it. But the river isn't even open for Salmon. Not being hypocritical, it's called obeying the law.
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WoW this was some really good reading should I post the TICKETT that I got several years ago doing the same thing... Seems that all the supposed summer fish are going to be WILD fish if the WDFW does not plant them in the river and that seems morally wrong to target such a small run of fish... Well I will wait just like every one else untill the SEPT 1 opener and then I will get my size #14 corkies out and go and do battle with the rest of the people.... The idea here folks is that we must all remember that "If they jump off a Bridge would you do it to"
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If they dont want the system fished CLOSE IT!!!
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The historical solution to those fishing closed waters for salmon under the guise of steelhead fishing has been to close that river or critical section of it to all fishing. Happened to a few rivers here on the canal several years ago. Yups no more prime time in the best searun cutt fishing river sections in this state due to a few peoples actions.  Same can happen on the Puyallup. 
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BTW it wasn't just one or two salmon that were being targeted on the canal rivers under the guise of steelhead fishing....it was several dozen federally listed summer chum salmon per day per person. This goody two shoes was one of the prime whiners that asked for the closure to stop it.
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Look at the Skok, closed the river from the mouth to the 101 brdige until Sept. 1. I don't know if this had anything to do with people fish for steelhead but targeting kings.
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Steelheading the Mocha?
Call it what it is...0 vis King flossing on light spinning.
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Yep, I agree FJ
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Call it what it is...0 vis King flossing on light spinning.
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Sounds to me like me like float and jig is getting a bad rap. Let the guy fish and if the Fish and Game feels he is breaking the law then let them deal with it. F&J go get em!!!
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Well that's certainly within his rights...go ahead and fish. Some of us gave our opinions in response to his post. Nothing preventing him from risking a ticket. One thing to consider though is that it is a fact that WDFW has in recent years responded to such situations by simply closing a fishery to all fishing...even when a few amongst the many such as F&J are not targeting fish which are out of season for even cnr fishing. No bad rap...just the facts.
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Exactly my point Gooose. There is some good fishing in the upper river. Especially those simply out for a good time catching smaller fish. But could see them totally shutting the river down until the beginning of salmon season. Nothing saying he can't fish. But a warning not to be surprised if he gets nailed.
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Pete beat me to it. It sounds like the Skagit where people are claiming to fish for steelhead but actually targeting kings. The state doesn't plant the Skagit with summerruns, though I've talked to two people who claim they've caught hatchery summer runs up there. Those same two people are targeting kings.
If someone is really fishing for steelhead, then cool. Your average steelhead gear would be kinda light for kings, so it shouldn't be hard to break them off once you know it's a king.
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Steelheading the Mocha?
Call it what it is...0 vis King flossing on light spinning.
A few years ago I caught a king in the Carbon (same system) while reeling in my rig from down river of me. I was using eggs (this was before the selective gear rules) and there was no way it was flossed. Infact most fish I've caught out of both of those rivers using both flies and gear have not ben flossed. I usually only use a 3' leader in there and still catch plunty of fish. Yes some fish are flossed but most, in my experience, are not.
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FJ15, what they're talking about is the huge amount of guys fishing with 5'+ leaders when it's puking mud. Not those fishing eggs on shorter leaders.
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I remember fishing the Elwa in the summer. Not any more. Too many people fishing "Steelhead" and playing C&R with the Springers. Cops didn't like that so now it's closed for everyone.
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It seems to me that the guys that are fishing with LONGER leaders are also getting a bad beat here... There is no leader length rule in effect that I am aware of... I am from that school of thought as well.... I have fished leaders any where from 18" to 14' and have caught fish just the same..Any one here been to CANADA and fished the SOCKEYE run with a leader 2X longer than there rod if you didn't then you were the exception to the rule....
I disagree with the fact that people go to the river and fish for a supposed "SUMMER STEELHEAD" and are C&R Kings there are many other rivers that host a run of kings that can be targeted during the month of AUG that are really close to METRO Tacoma...
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The reason I called you a knucklehead is I didn't know it was you fishing the river. Most of the people on this board know the rules and respect them so I didn't suspect a board regular to be fishing a closed river in plain sight of the highway.
1. There aren't any summer runs in the Puke
2. If you are using anything other than a trout rod rod with light line and very small corkies, the Warden will give you a ticket. Trust me on that one.
3. We all know you were trying to catch a king. I know because we all tried it on the Carbon long before you did.
4. You were fishing that drift all wrong anyway.
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3. We all know you were trying to catch a king. I know because we all tried it on the Carbon long before you did.
4. You were fishing that drift all wrong anyway.
 
DAMN, did I really say that????
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If they dont want the system fished CLOSE IT!!!
i hope you don't really mean that!!!!!
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If he didn't mean it then he wouldn't have typed it! Why is everyone still bitching at each other about this topic? Why can't we just let it go!
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u all sure do bitch alot,just fish i think its fine just along as there not snaggin fishing is fishing.
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Yups just fish any old time...seasons closed go fishing anyway...hey as long as you're not snagging it's cool. Entire river ends up closed for ALL fishing because of the actions of a few....hey it's cool...just go fishing...as long as your not snagging it's cool.  I think that would be just fine...don't you?
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i can say any damm thing i wanna say i have my own opinion and i thinks its cool if they fish for summers just as long as thier not snaggin because i hate snaggin peices of [**whoops**].and for u goose quit being a little bitch and let people talk and say what the want isn't that what this website is for.
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No steelhead master, this website isn't for anybody to say anything they want. Go find another outlet for that talk.
If you can't be respectful of others, you won't have a choice in it..
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I have two local rivers I can't fish because of people targeting the wrong species. I also have a favorite section of river that got closed because of snaggers. The game department has a really bad habit of closing sections of river of to make THERE life easier!!!
If you see somebody fishing the wrong species tell them to stop and why.
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Note to self, don't call mods little bitches.
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ROFLMFAO! Cupo .
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gooose the little bitch? i kinda like that.
what you doing latter babby?
j/k gooose. how do alwas manage to be the one called names? i want that job.
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My magnetic personality Pete I suspect? Got more holes in my carcass from shot and shell than ya can shake a stick at.
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your OK with this hooker gooose.
don't even think it. NO FREEBEES!
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Damned, don't get on the board for a day, and look what happens. LOL.
Yup, Kwaj hit the nail on the head. Steelhead Master. This is Marty's house. He lets us crash on the sofa, drink his beer (except when Timber shows up, Marty hides it ), and raid the fridge. BUT, you want to crap on the floor, be prepared to be tossed out. You can voice your opinions, yes, but you need to show a little respect. Opinions were voiced back (which, were legit if you've been fishing long), and you went and called of all people a moderator a little bitch (well, he's simply THE Biotch, but we'll let it slip this time ).
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Damned, don't get on the board for a day, and look what happens.
Dereliction of duty. You will now be fined and owe any member in good standing a fly or jig of their choice. Get busy tying!
Edit, Here's a story about fishing violations down in Oregon. Quite a controversy, watch the video. One of them was an Ifisher with a sticker.
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how about just a fly fishing lesson? Oh yea, and I dont care what any of you yayhoo's say! I'll be fishing that sucker next wednesday like it or not!!   
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Don't be a FNG and start calling the mods biatches. You're biting off more than you can chew there.
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Dave,
I can't believe your not fishing those Puyallup summer runs. I have Wednesday off and might have a better idea, are you interested? Might have to deal with a couple of Yahoo's but we will fit right in.
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Haha.. I thought I was lead yahoo! I dont have that day off. I was going to hit the puke after work. I may have to wait untill thursday though. I remember now that I have a dentist appointment and a softball game later on. 
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I will be there on WENS after work my self.... Boy this turned out to be a great thread to read... Then I don't have to watch the lame soaps that are on the TELIvision.........guys its really simple THERE ARE VERY FEW SUMMER RUNS IF ANY IN THE PUYALLUP RIVER, GO HOME and WAIT TILL 9/1/04... I spoke to a GMAE WARDEN down there as I was scouting my fav. Gravel bar about this and he was interested in where every one was supposed fishing for summer run steelhead... BE carful if you go
"I will write ticketts to any one fishing the LOWER RIVER because they are targeting SALMON"
That is what he told me
see you ALL next week
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pretty staight and to the point!!
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S-King, what gravel bar would that be? I too am planning on fishing the Puke on wednesday. Could be the same gravel bar. Sounds like a mini Puke-tilla for the opener.
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i can say any damm thing i wanna say i have my own opinion ...............and for u goose quit being a little bitch and let people talk and say what the want isn't that what this website is for.
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Dereliction of duty. You will now be fined and owe any member in good standing a fly or jig of their choice. Get busy tying!
I would like a Sol Duc Spey tied with all original materials. Thanks Jerry!
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hey goose sorry about all the name calling i just get really pissed when other people are right,Sorry man.
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S/M: I wouldnt worry about it. People tend to get heated up once in a while but in time it all blows over. Just keep in mind that one of these days you may want to meet some of the good people from the board. The once little bitch could be standing next to you on a river bank some day.    
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LOL. Hmmmm, I just may have ALL the materials to tie that solduc spey to exact recipe.
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was fishing today down south and started chatting with the guy next to me...seemed like a good guy and all BUT he did mention that he retained a king earlier this morning on the puyallup..oooops!!
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Did the guy realize he was poaching? Its no excuse, but maybe he didnt stop to read the regs. I'm guessing there are a few down there that didnt bother to check it out before hitting the river. They are probably thinking this is a great year with no pressure.
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I couldn't agree more, Poachers do suck! Especially under the guise of fishing for a non-existent run of summer steelhead. I watched a couple guys doing that just the other day down river from my home. Watched them with the glasses for a while until I was certain what they were up to, 3/0 hooks and about 1/2 pound clusters. Must be some HUGE Summer runs in the Puyallup these days!
Made a quick call to the Gamies and within about 15 minutes he was on them.
I have had enough of the crap I see going on this river...The Gamies are very aware of what's going on and will even be fishing themselves in plain clothes this year on the Puyallup during the Silver run. I have also given them permission to use my property as a roost to spot from.
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blah blah blah!!!!!
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Haven't had one of these in a while( so called debate)
come on ?
its the puyallup....whos gives a ****
Hey Jeffy pass the popcorn.........Os
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I guess I can tell you what will happen if you are fishing for steelhead in the puyallup with salmon gear, nothing! I went down to the Puyallup this morning to see what kind of condition it was in and sure enough here was two guys claiming that they are fishing for steelhead, I wasnt there very long and the game warden shows up he went down and asked the two guys what they were fishing for and they said steelhead he checked there licenses and there hooks to make sure they were using single barbless hook he also made them move down stream a few feet, they were fishing in the stuck where it runs into the puyallup,the stuck is closed to all fishing until Oct. 1st, no citations were issued. I talked to the game warden and he said the river is open to game fish so you can fish so long as you dont keep any salmon.
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Who would have thought that this thread would have come close to making it to the top 10 for reply's. I didnt think it was going to be that controversial. As blown out and muddy that thing is right now I cant believe anyone is even looking at it anyway. Especially with better fishing elsewhere.
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Good job BillyB. Time to get the shmucks off the water.
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