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after thinking about it for awhile i decided to buy a salmon/steelhead guide license for 08 going to be fishing the cowlitz and drano
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Fish Jesus
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Will you be one of those insured operations?
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Congrats....but, if you're gonna do it...do it right!
Good question FJ!
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Wow, a month ago you were "new to fishing from a boat", now your going to be a guide  , good luck!
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Gotta follow your dreams Scott...competitive, tiring affair this I know cause i've fished with the best...wish him luck!
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Gotta write off the cost somehow 
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Good thinking Fishhog, I am going to get mine now too. or maybe not.  
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fishyness
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licensed boat is insured and also have purchased liabily insurance im getting a llc started gotta try somthing new somtimes ive always wanted to di it now i have the opportunity im new to running a jet ive fished from many boats and had many boats but they all we prop after driving a jet its pretty easy
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Don't forget your 6pac license.
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Got boat, Got rods, now I'm a guide
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There's another way to look at this. If you take almost any compensation to offset expenses, you almost need to be a guide to be legal.
As we all know, just doing something for a long time doesn't make you an expert. Also, some people have a nack and try hard at whatever they do and would naturally get really good quick.
Also, the experience isn't just about catching fish. I'd rather have a good time and not catch as many fish than fish with a jerk who catches lots of fish!
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Don't forget your 6pac license.
Coast guard license is a must have.
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Yeah and your accountant will need to know percentage of pleasure use of boat as well as business so the write off isn't what i expected,
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i didnt do it for a write off im doing it because its somthing i want to get good at and have fun at the same time i remodel fulltime so its a second source of income for somthing i like
thanks jimh for the support!!
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i never really thought of guiding as "fun"... seems like alot of long hours. hard work. playing boat jockey at the cowlitz or drano doesn't seem like "fun" either. i see guys jumping into guiding like guys starting brew pubs. seems cool, seems like fun, then realise its really not all that much fun when it becomes a job. anyways hope you have fun....
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There was a pretty good article about that very subject in STS by Mr. Herzog. Also pointed out that if you love fishing, it makes it even harder cause your on all these rivers and you cant fish!
Shaun.
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I enjoy fishing for pleasure way to much to become a guide but that's just me.
Good luck with it fishyness! Glad to hear about the liability insurance...all businesses should require it.
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You should get "Getting Skunked" insurance.
Just call one of those insurance outfits who insures against getting holes in one, or making half-court basketball shots.
Tell them the chances are like "One in 2000" and then you can have a "No getting skunked" guarantee, "Or your money back"
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Good luck bro hope it gose well for you. its a big step. stay strong. Jim W
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I hope youre good with paperwork. Keep track of everything.
IRS does not allow hobby right-off indefinitely. Dont wait to find out the depreciation schedule for the boat and vehicle. You should get with someone. Even HR block people could give you the choices for expensing the business.
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Any guides out there want to coment on this one. 
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Yeah...I'm curious.
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FJ with the new boat coming you,ll be next in line.....  BTW ....most guys who pay guides like to catch fish, they also like top of the lines fishing gear to use!!!! spend a couple days boondoggin with some guys that just bunt up 100 leaders and you got some more crankers coming tomarra..better start tying fishyness!!!!! its alot of work and aint much fun frezzing you arss off in the middle off dec/jan on the cow.....good luck 
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I never guided but did mate a charter boat on The Great Lakes
and you have to be able to let the world slide off your back.
When fishings hot and you have good people in the boat it all works but a slow day with a jerk and it's less than fun.
To this day I find my self handing rods off when I don't have to.
WFFF
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wiff you been fishing, figure your in springer heaven right now!!!!!
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Guiding is a tough gig!Long hours, tons of work, many many expenses. And to be good at it, start on one river, learn it inside out and fish the heck out of it and later learn other spots the same way. I'm sure most of the guides on here fished for a LONG time before guiding. Scott? Doug? Bob? Phil? And with the major downturns in fishing lately it's also a TOUGH way to earn a living. I'll start with somewhat of an itemized list of expenses,(excluding the boat) Other guides please add as needed.
1.- Six pack or bigger USCG license and requirements-class for this around $1,500 . USCG Fees, $300?. Drug Program and testing $100 per test and dont forget a DOT Physical at $200.
2.- Safety Equipment-First aid Kit-$50, Lifejackets for all and a throw cushion $150, Kit $20(whistle, flares, etc...)
3.-Insurance- around $1,000 per year just for liability.
4.- Rods, Reels, etc,,, top of the line equipment is better, baseing this on 3 client set ups, lets say $300 per rig x3 rigs, plugs, bait and spinning $2,700. Misc gear, $100 Month x12
5.- Advertising- Brchures $100< Website $250-500 and up keep on domain name etc $12 a month
6.-business expenses- $50 month cell phone, $50 month regular phone and $30 a month internet
7-State Guides licenses $330
So far adding this up and NOT including boat prices and fuel in the final tally as well as some other stuff like food etc.... Just to get initially started, I'd figure on laying out around $8,000- $10,000.
I'm being conservative here, anyone feel free to add to this please:)
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I wish. I'm still coaching and working 50 to 60 a week so I'm running out of time. SGM and I fished last weekend and hid SGM bud got one. I SGM comes down Sunday I'll fish with him or I'll
put my boat in the water and give it a try.
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Im not a guide but have fished enough to know that about 10% of the guys catch fish routinely.....some of them not even guides, I wont mention names of many that frequent those rivers and know them very well.
Then hopefully while you are outfishing,,,,never mind someone already mentioned insurance......its a must.....even your tow rig should be in tip top shape and insured, ya never know....
then the regs are a changing constantly as with styles and gear as you already well know im sure......
I truly wish ya luck, but thats a tough system to start in my opinion.....
Respectful, courteous guides are the best, the ones that respect the river system and dont step on toes.....
fishing is just that, its fishing, I reccomend taking a look at some of the current guides in the area and following their reccomendations.....hopefully they will input some.......advice, we can always use that when starting a new business and having a legitimate business plan......
WW
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A Coast guard 6 pac is needed for Drano, you dont want to get caught without it!
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