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$1.6 million for area's salmon
State board awards grants to improve and purchase habitat
John Dodge, The Olympian A dozen South Sound projects totaling more than $1.6 million to improve habitat for imperiled salmon were announced Thursday by the state Salmon Recovery Funding Board.
Statewide, $16.6 million in state and federal funds was distributed to tribes, local governments and nonprofit groups to repair estuaries, improve shoreline habitat, replace road culverts and other barriers that impede fish passage in streams and buy critical salmon habitat.
Since its creation by the 1999 state Legislature, the board has awarded $212 million in grants to more than 600 projects, all aimed at restoring salmon runs either listed on the federal Endangered Species Act list, or future candidates for listing.
Here's a look at some of the South Sound projects funded:
The Nisqually River Land Trust received $349,860 to secure a conservation easement on 0.4 miles of Nisqually shoreline and about 0.25 miles of shoreline on a tributary stream in the McKenna area. The easement will create a contiguous protection zone stretching over 2 miles along the river.
The Cascade Land Conservancy received $190,050 to help with the purchase of 150 acres of critical habitat where the north and south forks of the Skokomish River meet. It will allow restoration work in an area important to Hood Canal chinook salmon, summer chum salmon and bull trout, all ESA-listed species, according to the land conservancy grant application.
The Skokomish tribe was awarded $190,000 to place woody debris in the upper south fork of the Skokomish River and tributaries to slow down the river and stream flows so fish have more places to rest, hide and grow.
"We're hoping to start placing the wood next year in the low flow time of year," said Keith Dublanica, natural resources director for the tribe.
The South Puget Sound Salmon Enhancement Group garnered $168,800 to restore a small pocket estuary and sand spit next to a salmon-bearing stream at the Little Fish Trap cove northeast of Boston Harbor.
Back in the 1940s, landowners filled in the historical stream and tidal channel, diverting sediment into the estuary instead of the beach, which damaged estuary habitat, according to the project application submitted to the funding board.
The salmon enhancement group also received $69,000 to help restore the beach at Thurston County's Frye Cove Park. Crews will remove about 1,000 cubic yards of riprap rock that armors about 400 feet of shoreline, replacing it with large woody debris to improve beach conditions and use of the nearshore area by forage fish and salmon.
The Hood Canal Salmon Enhancement Group will have $81,799 to breach the north dike on the Hamma Hamma River to allow salmon to access 45 acres of salt marsh. The salmon group also will remove a road culvert to improve access to 2.5 acres of salt marsh on the south side of the river.
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What a bargain, that works out to 30 million a year in tax dollars. Wonder how many more we'll have to spend before we cut back on harvest. Seems you could buy a few commercial permits a year for that kind of money.
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Work2fish, The first place harvest will be cut is with the sporties. The commies benefit those that can't/don't fish, and the sporties only benefit themselves (that's the old argument anyway). Add to that the argument that cutting commie harvest will cost jobs, and cutting sports harvest won't (another lame argument heard over and over...) and the general tax paying public non-fisherman will side with the high dollar lobbying special interest group every time. Frustrating for sure...but we'll be the ones taking it in the shorts.
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Oh and BTW, I believe that any habitat improvement is a good thing. A little financial oversight is also a good thing.
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Mojo,
My concern, isn't just financial oversight. I worry that some of what is being done doesn't have the scientific oversight by state fisheries biologists for starters.
Ask yourself this... how hard is it to get woody debris? I have 5 acres of it I'd be willing to donate for free. The pricetag for what the Skoks are doing seems VERY high to me. Whatever happened to using volunteers?
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they've made it impossible to use volunteers now but as long as $$$$$$$ is spent on hired labor it's ok
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Mojo said: Oh and BTW, I believe that any habitat improvement is a good thing. A little financial oversight is also a good thing.
I agree, and that's why I spend my own time and money to plant trees and take care of the streams that run through my property. What chaps my is having damn near pristine habitat and fewer fish every year. Gone are the days of watching silvers and steelhead race up and down my small creeks as they have become bycatch statistics for the chum fishery. Hell even the chum didn't make it up last year. What it boils down to for me is why spend all this money to improve habitat and then not allow the fish to utilize it, it's like building a new road and then putting a locked gate on it.
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" The Cascade Land Conservancy received $190,050 to help with the purchase of 150 acres of critical habitat where the north and south forks of the Skokomish River meet. It will allow restoration work in an area important to Hood Canal chinook salmon, summer chum salmon and bull trout, all ESA-listed species, according to the land conservancy grant application." Excuse me but what summer chum in the Skok? Even if there were they wouldn't spawn that far upriver. But I like the idea of purchasing riparian habitat as long as the public has access.
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Next years grant funding cycle is going to be interesting. Federal funding for it is primarily thru pork barrel attachments placed in bills by our states members of Congress. Our states share of that is around 28 million bucks. The incoming Democratic leadership just announced that they are removing all pork from this sessions budgets. That will leave only 21 million to be split by all four states.
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" The salmon enhancement group also received $69,000 to help restore the beach at Thurston County's Frye Cove Park. Crews will remove about 1,000 cubic yards of riprap rock that armors about 400 feet of shoreline, replacing it with large woody debris to improve beach conditions and use of the nearshore area by forage fish and salmon." Actually total taxpayer funding is closer to 85,000 as they are using a 16,000 state grant they already had as a match. There's somewhere aroung 20 miles of bulkheaded shoreline in that inlet that isn't going away anytime soon. Paying 85k in taxpayers dollars to remove 400 feet doesn't seem like a wise expenditure in my book.
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BTW does anyone have any idea of how this state funds it's salmon restoration grants? Answer=Bonds. So add in the interest costs to those project costs. I believe public funding of salmon restoration is a great idea but I am not to keen on some of what is blindly being funded. There really needs to be an project review board that is independent of the state agencies and groups that are making these grants.
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I can feel my blood pressure rising.
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Anyone care to calculate the total cost to the taxpayer for let's say for fun a million dollars of state bonds. It's the same calculation used for highways and capitol construction building projects.
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BTW the Frye Cove project may negatively affect the clam population on that beach as it is immediately below or adjacent to the bulkhead. Frye Cove CP is an isolated but popular recreational clamming opportunity with a limited productive area. If the beach changes to what it is to either side of the bulkhead area then bye bye clamming opportunity. Typically these projects do not mitigate for lost shellfish production and opportunity. Gain for salmonids will not be scientifically measureable by any means...loss of clam production will be easily measureable as they simply will not exist where they were. Anyone see a problem?
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Hmmm...anybody but me see an opportunity here...form a group...establish a cause...apply for grant...get accepted and then do as little work as possible until the money is gone.
How about the restoration of the lower mox chehalis creek sea run cutthroat?? hmmm...wonder who owns that...oh wait I do!! yee haw!! singing...were into money!!
Just kidding...at least on the mox chehalis part.
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If those src were listed then you'd be in the running for the gravy train. Doc you pretty much captured the darkside of the salmon restoration industry....the industry does a lot of good things so everyone please do not let my examples spoil your opinions in regards to it. I just believe that it could be done a whole lot better for the fish and us the taxpayers. The system needs some changes is all.
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come on gooose ya rained on my parade fer cryin out loud.
there is a lot of good done and I don't mean to be pokin to much fun at it. But you have to admit when the gov gets involved things cost way more than they should...
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Doc I know that Cutt fishery intimately. Grew up in Central Park and every one of those small creeks produced a lot of Blue Backs as we call them locally. Also plunked the Halis just above the island for them for about a decade. Working those tiny streams as a child and teenager was an invaluable lesson in the ecology of small streams and cutts.
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Heck what is the the bond interest to pay off the 212 million bucks already granted? I have to also question why we are spending these funds in areas like south Puget Sound where the projects really would only increase runs of existing healthy runs. If it was my decision the funds would be only spent 100% on where they might at least have a measureable contribution to delisting salmonids.
I really like the Hamma Hamma dike removal price tag. The seafood company that is cooperating with this project annually spends about $1,000 each summer to maintain that dike. the dike depends upon annual rebuilding inorder to exist. Hmmmm what if the taxpayers simply paid them that amount for 10 years not to maintain the northern dike? $10,000 and the result would be the same. Course the local salmon restoration corporation wouldn't make as much money.
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I thought you grew up in Ocosta Gooose...
What are the rules for clearing out a stream...1/2 at least of the creek along our property line is just choked with I believe finger sized and bigger willow anyway to get those cleared out or is that no no?
it cause the creek to flood at the upper end of our property I'm sure.
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good luck doc
At my grandparent's place in sw OR we tried to do homeowner improvement and with a small stream it was impossible to get local or state approval, = no improvents
we were volunteering to do, and finance, the work but still denied a permit
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Doc, check with the county. Initially I worked with the Department of Community Development up here which was great. Unfortunately these duties have been handed off to the enhancement groups and local tribes and I haven't had a phone call or e-mail returned in the last year and a half. I love it when our tax dollars are hard at work.
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In my opinion, getting rid of netting would be the most effective method to give the remaing stocks a chance. That in conjunction with habitat improvement. Maybe thatwould be too simple an approach or too complex. Dunno.  Seems to me that the rights of the many (Sporties) outweigh the rights of the few (commies).
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Hog why should any groups rights be part of the restoration solution?
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You make a good point o wise one, but I was referring to a very small select group to take a large portion of the catch. Question: I have always wondered if commercial guys pay any $$$$$$ to go towards hatcheries, restoration, etc. Or do they just get to catch and profit form a natural resource without putting any $$$$$$ back?????? Anyone know ?????
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Seems to me that the rights of the many (Sporties) outweigh the rights of the few (commies).
I'm curious why you would make that statement. Why did you not consider that the rights of the many (fish buying public) would not outweigh the rights of the few (sporties)?
As far as restoration and funding, I'd venture to say, they are paying a larger percentage than we are. I'd also venture to say, they'd laugh in our faces if we demanded commercials quit fishing.
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true dat Aunty
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My question wasn't speculation on if they are putting monies back, it was if they are or are not. A sports caught fish is worth 4 times the money to the economy than a net caught fish is it not? The fish buying public will just have to learn how to catch their own. They can join SH.net and learn how I'm referring to salmon & steelhead of course, not bottom fish.
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Fishhog, you dreamer you!
First we'd have to change the law requiring WDFW to provide "viable" commercial fishing for salmon. If you REALLY want to "go there" we'd first have to get rid of some legislators. Let us start with that old bitty Harriet Spanel up there where you live.

Then, explain to the packers and processors who "own" her and some others that they don't need the business. For some reason, they think paying as little as possible for salmon then shipping it fresh or frozen entitles them to a hefty profit, for which they are willing to pay politicians for the right to maintain said profits... Remember my old signature?
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nicely stated
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