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Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially)
      #185097 - 05/05/05 10:00 AM

(This is real. Ladies & Kidies under 15 Be warned.)
http://dogbegone.com/video.htm


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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: JimW]
      #185100 - 05/05/05 10:22 AM

As a hunter and "sportsman" I found that pretty repulsive, whoever was pulling the trigger is neither a hunter or "sportsman" and is giving us a bad name and giving P.E.T.A. and other anti-hunting groups great ammo to use against us, Aix if you enjoyed that or if that was you pulling the trigger your a *^$ *&^% idiot and doing a major dis-service to the rest of us, thanks. Do hunters a favor and delete this post.

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Re: Regulators to ban hunting via Internet new [Re: AkKings]
      #185102 - 05/05/05 10:39 AM

Good deal. The idea was stupid.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/24hour/consumer/outdoors/story/2367422p-10611293c.html

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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: AkKings]
      #185103 - 05/05/05 10:50 AM

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As a hunter and "sportsman" I found that pretty repulsive, whoever was pulling the trigger is neither a hunter or "sportsman" and is giving us a bad name and giving P.E.T.A. and other anti-hunting groups great ammo to use against us, Aix if you enjoyed that or if that was you pulling the trigger your a god damn idiot and doing a major dis-service to the rest of us, thanks. I won't use or promote your business, though I hadn't planned on it anyways as I'm not impressed by it. Do hunters a favor and delete this post.







You have your mommy still change your dipers too. thats the way resort to name calling. And that’s mature aswell, resort to remarks about my work. Good one …

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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: JimW]
      #185104 - 05/05/05 10:56 AM

Great vids! Now if we could just put the crosshairs on some sealions...

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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: JimW]
      #185106 - 05/05/05 10:56 AM

Post like this do nothing more then give hunters a blackeye, whats the point of it other then do our sport more harm, can you give me a good answer to this question? Doubt it!

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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: JimW]
      #185107 - 05/05/05 10:58 AM

So I guess you wont use the sportsman’s warehouse no more either since they’re the ones selling the video.
Strait off the Home page......


Filmed with high speed video equipment and
produced by a professional video team, this is the
only video of its kind good enough to be carried by
Sportsman's Warehouse and Mid-South Shooters Supply

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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: JimW]
      #185109 - 05/05/05 11:05 AM

Never been there, thats about 50 miles out of the way for me!
Can you answer my question? what is the purpose of putting something on the internet that can (and will) be used against hunters? pretty simple question.


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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: JimW]
      #185111 - 05/05/05 11:06 AM

. It makes you more accurate at shooting long distances; have you ever shot a prairie dog? Or antelope?
They aren’t close. What some call fun, may not be what others do. You ever see what prairie dogs do to a field if not controlled?
Most are killed with chemicals I would rather be shoot quickly as to be gassed to death.

We shoot prairie dogs to control there population and get keyed in for 400 yard + shots for antelope.


(If you have a problem with it fine but leave the personal crap out. .)

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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: JimW]
      #185114 - 05/05/05 11:09 AM

Still doesn't answer the question, WHY post it on the internet?

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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: AkKings]
      #185116 - 05/05/05 11:12 AM

They already know about it, you think we don’t already deal with it there crape
It’s a video that is out what’s the difference if its added to the internet.
Hell three days after I started my web sit I had hate mail from them. Who cares what a bunch of Winnie terrorist classified morons think. The pro hunters were already fighting them on this video before it was even released.

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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: JimW]
      #185117 - 05/05/05 11:14 AM

man, I did that enough times when I was a teenager that I shouldn't talk, but I REALLY don't want my kid seeing that (at least until the testosterone bloodlust kicks in about 10 years from now) , he would have nightmares for a week! I remember it being a blast (pun intended) but seeing it on film kind of brings how gross an exploding groundsquirrel is right out into the open. But hey, like I said I did it, and thought it was fun, and I suppose with enough beers I could watch it and laugh, so more power to ya if you want to buy it....just think about it before you pop Bob the Builder out of the VCR and plug that thing in OK?

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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: ClearwaterAL]
      #185120 - 05/05/05 11:17 AM

Thats why I put up the warning.

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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: JimW]
      #185121 - 05/05/05 11:18 AM

Heh, overlooked that, you even got the age right!

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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: ClearwaterAL]
      #185122 - 05/05/05 11:19 AM

Ive seen a hell of alot worse things on the internet...

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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: ClearwaterAL]
      #185124 - 05/05/05 11:20 AM

we (hunters) just keep shooting ourselves in the foot.
Thats ok, I haven't been able to hunt in a couple years and in a few more years, neither will anyone else.


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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: Outlaw76]
      #185126 - 05/05/05 11:23 AM

Well to the rest I am sorry if it offends, and I hope you wouldn’t let that discourage giving me a chance for your taxidermy needs. I will have better pics up soon on my web site, of my work. The pitchers don’t do me justice at all, if you need better info I have references you can call. Or you can see my work at bay street outfitters in P.O. and the Pizza Factory in P.O.
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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: ClearwaterAL]
      #185127 - 05/05/05 11:26 AM

I found the video to be quite funny. those little bastards destroy lots of fields over here and some farmers actually pay people to kill them.
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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: Dances]
      #185128 - 05/05/05 11:29 AM

Which is why we got away with doing it as teenagers, the farmers with fields near the edge of the sagebrush would pay us for the tails of the ones we killed, same with gophers, although we USUALLY trapped those.

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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: Outlaw76]
      #185129 - 05/05/05 11:29 AM

Yes, there are worse things on the Internet.

Worse for hunters? Not really.

I saw those vids months ago, and I too found them to be extremely violent and not necessary.

Having spent the better part of 10 years market hunting coyotes, bobcat, etc. and having killed a couple thousand critters, I consider the total waste of an animal (as shown in the vid) as something that serves no purpose whatsoever. Neither the meat, nor hide is of any use after that bullet arrives.

This kind of mentality among a few hunters, giving the rest a bad name, is why many of us have hung up our guns, and bows.

Fine, the dogs have to be killed off...but to revile in the explosive nature of a 55 gr.HP doing 4000 fps.+ and hitting a small, thin boned animal is a bit too much, IMO.

Few will argue that the PD's don't need to be controlled...they do, but don't go filming the explosive end to their lives.

Vids like that only provide more ammo to the anti-hunting crowd, and worse yet, if the "fence-sitters" (not anti-hunting.... yet) see that video it really forms a bad opinion of what SPORTSMEN are all about. Is that what you want?

Just because someone has the "right" to sell that video, does not make it the "right" thing to do.

NOTHING GOOD can come from this video, IMO.

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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: AkKings]
      #185130 - 05/05/05 11:31 AM

Quote:

AkKings said:
we (hunters) just keep shooting ourselves in the foot.
Thats ok, I haven't been able to hunt in a couple years and in a few more years, neither will anyone else.




Where do you get that????
I answered your question, what’s your response?
So now in a few we won’t be able to hunt cause of a video????
We see kill shots on cable hunting shows every day.
Are supposed to live in a shell cause of a few others????
that’s why the anties win people wont stand up for there rights and Hide or give up Just like your quote proves........

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Re: Regulators to ban hunting via Internet new [Re: Trouthead]
      #185131 - 05/05/05 11:34 AM

Im not sure if this is what your getting at here trouthead but this isnt hunting on the internet. Its just a video of people shooting prarie dogs.

Having lived in Wyoming for a few years, its actually quite common to shoot prarie dogs just like aix said. The are like little moles of the prarie. People shoot them to regulate their population and save their fields. Not sure how good of an idea it is to make a video of it like this but never the less it happens every day.

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Good deal. The idea was stupid.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/24hour/consumer/outdoors/story/2367422p-10611293c.html




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Re: Just for the animal lovers( PETA especially) new [Re: JimW]
      #185133 - 05/05/05 11:40 AM

I can understand both sides of the issue. On one hand, like aixponsa said, they show animals being shot every day on cable, so what's the big deal? On the other I can see where someone, even on the pro-hunting/firearms side of the issue, would have a problem with it, since it is so graphic and pointless. But as far as this video swaying people against hunting/firearms, who is gonna see it? The link will probably only be found be enthusiasts and die-hard antis, who MIGHT show it to other die-hard antis. Where is the "fence-sitter" gonna see it? They won't buy it at Sportsman's just to be disgusted, and they won't likely attend an anit-hunting conference or meeting where it might be shown. The video MAY be reprehensible, but lets not blow the importance of a single video out of proportion.

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Re: Regulators to ban hunting via Internet new [Re: Neurosis]
      #185134 - 05/05/05 11:45 AM

Just read what MikeB said, thats basically what I'm trying to say.

I have know problem with a picture of a deer/elk/whatever that was humanely killed during a hunting season that will be used to feed someone's family, video's like yours I picture a couple good old boys with their monster truck right behind them with a bunch of Schmidt beer cans scattered around (along with shell casings) and roars of laughter every time they blow 1 up. Pretty sporting. I, as a hunter that only shoots what I am going to eat, don't want to be looked upon like that.


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Re: Regulators to ban hunting via Internet new [Re: AkKings]
      #185135 - 05/05/05 11:52 AM

" But as far as this video swaying people against hunting/firearms, who is gonna see it? "

IF I was the marketing director for an anti-hunting group I would be sending out hundreds of thousands of E-mails with links to those video's. I would send that stuff to every person I could find.

I would try to get as many "fence-sitters" as I could to watch it...people from the cities that have no idea what real hunting is. I would show them that...and say "SEE! THIS is what hunters do!"

And....in the end... I would gain many thousands of votes for banning hunting.

If I was an eco-wacko, that is.

That is how that video can sway non-hunters into being ANTI hunters.

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Re: Regulators to ban hunting via Internet new [Re: AkKings]
      #185138 - 05/05/05 11:55 AM

I want to know what on earth this has to do with Steelhead or Salmon? Maybe it should be moved?? I for one do hunt, but don't like seeing videos like this.....It's not all about just killing something.....Ok, unless it's abig one of these but as far as I know ya can't shoot em!!!

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Re: Regulators to ban hunting via Internet new [Re: fishguidebrian]
      #185141 - 05/05/05 11:59 AM

I will agree with brian I put this up as a responce to the stop thread I started so will a mod please move this to the Hunting form Jim

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Re: Regulators to ban hunting via Internet new [Re: JimW]
      #185142 - 05/05/05 12:04 PM

Im sorry I cant hold it in.....
Prairie dog the other stew meet...no cleaning necessary just rinse off...

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