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harrington blanks wanted
      #282826 - 03/29/07 02:13 PM

does anybody have any the would sell? need the 10' model number 412 or 552 need asap!

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Re: harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Brewer]
      #282847 - 03/29/07 05:25 PM

but they ain't yella

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Re: harrington blanks wanted new [Re: normgonefishing]
      #282947 - 03/30/07 08:24 AM

But he could paint them yella.

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Re: harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Alaskan]
      #282964 - 03/30/07 11:44 AM

they are hard to find, i have 3 and am always looking for more. seeker would probably be your best bet, their jig sticks are close.

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Re: harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Brewer]
      #282973 - 03/30/07 12:47 PM

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Rainshadow]
      #283068 - 03/31/07 04:46 PM

We used to use the Harrington/Harnell blanks many years ago when we did not have anything better but now in my judgment there are much better glass or glass/graphite combination blanks available. I think that the Rainshadow SU blanks are far superior to anything that Harrington ever made. Some of the Lamiglas glass blanks are also much better than the Harringtons were. The Harringtons were HEAVY and SLOW and I can understand why they went out of business. But for those that do not agree, the last time I checked Mariner's Supply on Swan Island in Portland still had a few blanks.

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Harry]
      #283076 - 03/31/07 07:33 PM

mariner supply hasn't carried harrington in 4 years. i called a place in florida friday. they said the rods haven't been produced since the mid 90s. what made them so great was that harrington blanks were indistructable. yea they were heavy and slow, but they lasted forever. plus the blanks were only 85$ how much are the RS SU blanks?

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Brewer]
      #283105 - 03/31/07 09:58 PM

Geeze, u can buy two rainshadow for that price if u shop around, Cabela's has them for around 40 or 50 bucks! Let me know what ya need to build a rod and i can send ya some stuff or bring some to the Tilla next month!

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: CastawayChris]
      #283133 - 04/01/07 09:30 AM

Brewer,
Yes, I know that they have not been able to get the Harringtons in several years but the last time I checked they still had some in the back room. Call and ask for Craig Hansen.
I agree with CastawayChris the Rainshadow equivalent blanks are better blanks than the Harringtons and they are much cheaper.
I agree that the Harringtons were indestructible but I would respond to that with a quote by Gary Loomis, "I can build a rod that you cannot break but I do not think that you will want to fish with it".


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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Harry]
      #283135 - 04/01/07 09:53 AM

guys, somehow you have missed the target here. its a plunking rod, not something i plan on holding all day long. what made harringtons superior to graphite is its ability to be dropped and banged around on the rocks up at the bonneville dam. basically combat plunking.

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Brewer]
      #283146 - 04/01/07 03:09 PM

Brewer, i will check with Mick Batson at Utmost Enterprises/Fishermans Outlet here in town and see what he has, i know he had a few Harnell blanks around and a few Fishers, they looked to me to be some good plunkin blanks!

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: CastawayChris]
      #283207 - 04/02/07 07:15 AM

The Brewer,
You do not have a problem with a rod for plunking at Bonneville at least not for Spring Salmon fishing this year and probably not for some years to come because it will not open to fishing. However, it may be open to summer and fall fishing. To plunk for Springers you will have to find a place below the I5 bridge.
Another thing that you might keep in mind when looking for older Harringtons or any older fiberglas blank if they are used ones is that fiberglass unlike graphite fatigues with use. The more it is flexed the softer or less stiff it becomes. Older Harringtons that have been used a lot will be quite a bit different in terms of stiffness then they were when new.


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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Harry]
      #283258 - 04/02/07 01:18 PM

chris, yes please check on that for me. the blanks have to be able to cast 10/12oz sinkers. pm me on prices too. thanks

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Brewer]
      #283259 - 04/02/07 01:23 PM

Rick, Castaway just put the call in for ya, they only have a few harnell blanks left and they are shorty's 5-6ft! I will keep my ears open!

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: CastawayChris]
      #283263 - 04/02/07 01:38 PM

Brewer, since i know u will have a bit of a hard time finding those harringtons, here are a few professional suggested Columbia River plunkin stick choices that i have doctored up for ya! There is the SWB80XH 8ft. rated 25-50lb or their is the step lighter the SWB80H 8ft. rated 20-40lb, both of these are made of E-Glass! Another good plunkin setup would be a TS70H a 7ft. 30-50lb and made of E-glass with a solid glass tip which is solid about the last 8 or 10 inches of the rod! I know they are a little short, but they are made of glass like u want and they can easily have a foot or two solid glass extension put in them no problem! Would be very reasonable as well, probably get one with or without the extension for around 40 -50 bucks! Very durable machine it would be!

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: CastawayChris]
      #283264 - 04/02/07 01:39 PM

Brewer, since i know u will have a bit of a hard time finding those harringtons, here are a few professional suggested Columbia River plunkin stick choices that i have doctored up for ya! There is the SWB80XH 8ft. rated 25-50lb or their is the step lighter the SWB80H 8ft. rated 20-40lb, both of these are made of E-Glass! Another good plunkin setup would be a TS70H a 7ft. 30-50lb and made of E-glass with a solid glass tip which is solid about the last 8 or 10 inches of the rod! I know they are a little short, but they are made of glass like u want and they can easily have a foot or two solid glass extension put in them no problem! Would be very reasonable as well, probably get one with or without the extension for around 40 -50 bucks! Very durable machine it would be!

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: CastawayChris]
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Brewer, since i know u will have a bit of a hard time finding those harringtons, here are a few professional suggested Columbia River plunkin stick choices that i have doctored up for ya! There is the SWB80XH 8ft. rated 25-50lb or their is the step lighter the SWB80H 8ft. rated 20-40lb, both of these are made of E-Glass! Another good plunkin setup would be a TS70H a 7ft. 30-50lb and made of E-glass with a solid glass tip which is solid about the last 8 or 10 inches of the rod! I know they are a little short, but they are made of glass like u want and they can easily have a foot or two solid glass extension put in them no problem! Would be very reasonable as well, probably get one with or without the extension for around 40 -50 bucks! Very durable machine it would be!

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: CastawayChris]
      #283301 - 04/02/07 04:50 PM

musta wanted to get the point across

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: navigator]
      #283303 - 04/02/07 05:00 PM

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: CastawayChris]
      #283347 - 04/03/07 06:11 AM

Gotta admit that he's doing everything he can to help a buddy out.
Nav, you still looking for another 5000D?

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Trouthead]
      #283358 - 04/03/07 07:25 AM

brewer,if indesturctable is what ya want try Uglystik they got a 10' 2 pc 12-40# 6-12oz $70 they allso have king kat e-glass rods for $20,they would probably hold a coat of yella paint real good to




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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Trouthead]
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Was really lookin' for a 5500D...What'cha got?

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: navigator]
      #283372 - 04/03/07 09:25 AM

Well, I got enough parts to build an extra 5000D if your interested.
I'm currently building a 1970's 5000 with 5 bearings and direct drive. This one will be mine until I can prove out my ideas. I'll post pictures when I get done.

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Gotta admit that he's doing everything he can to help a buddy out.
Nav, you still looking for another 5000D?



Was really lookin' for a 5500D...What'cha got?


Well steve, i do really do everthing i can to help a buddy out and yes let it be know i have owed mitch a rod for and extended period of time, but i would like to build that rod into something special like no other rod i've ever built for he deserves something like that! I am off again today sick and got all my priorities done yesterday so i am goin to work on a fancy butt wrap on his rod today! This post is just for mitchs sanity and well being yes, i'm finally goin to do some more work on that lil bugger! I always do everything i can to help my fellow fisherman out!

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: CastawayChris]
      #283419 - 04/03/07 01:20 PM

SU1209 was designed to be more durable than its brother SW1209!!! Check it out Anglers workshop has them in stock and if they dont, we are heading down there on the 13 and 14 for the rod buildong show.

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Trouthead]
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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: navigator]
      #283490 - 04/03/07 09:08 PM

Well Brewer the surf rod you used last summer was a 10' Perigee
rated for 40lbs and my Yeller pole is a SB1363M2 but the 4M would be more your speed.
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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Will fish for food]
      #283491 - 04/03/07 09:14 PM

this is the story, i'm in contact with a guy who will buy every harrington i can build. if i can find the blanks. thus the search. looks like i have struck out in my search. steve i have not forgot the rods you have. this guy was all horned up for the harringtons. i apreciate all the help on this search. he did not want a ugly stick, nor a brittle lami glass blank.

steve pm me the full specs please. he maybe very interested them.

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Brewer]
      #283508 - 04/04/07 07:09 AM

Brewer,
I think if you could explain the relative advantages/disadvantages of the modern glass blanks from Rainshadow or Lamiglas he would prefer them over the Harringtons. The Harrington blank designs and materials are 40 years old. The modern glass blanks are lighter so more sensitive, faster responding so they will cast and set the hook better, and they are very little less durable. The added wall thickness of the Harringtons does add some to the hoop strength, resistance to crush and shear, but not much and they are NO stronger in terms of being over stressed. The thicker walls are mostly just adding weight.
The glass blanks from Lamiglas, Rainshadow and others that are comparable to the Harringtons are not brittle. They will take an awful lot of abuse. In fact, they are very difficult to break.
To be very blunt I have never met anyone that was looking for a Harrington that really understood what the trade offs are between the Harringtons and the more modern glass blanks or for that matter the trade offs between graphite and fiberglas.
I have used and built a heck of a lot of the Harringtons but not for nearly 25 years and would not build one again even if they were available.
However, if you are still set on them and cannot find any locally I can give you the names of a couple of rod builders in California near where the Harringtons were built that you can contact who may have some left.


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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Harry]
      #283535 - 04/04/07 10:47 AM

thanks harry, i'll pass on this to to thew interested party.

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Brewer]
      #283879 - 04/05/07 11:13 PM

they are a great meat and potatoes bobber rod, that is what i know, very powerful and my oldest original rod. i bought it new in 99', and it's the only one that has not failed thus far.

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      #283882 - 04/05/07 11:30 PM

Bobbers? Wheres ol Dave when i need him, they're FLOATS lol!!! As marty would say, "there just a strike indicator"!!!

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Marty]
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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: CastawayChris]
      #283934 - 04/06/07 10:43 AM

they are a tool for the perfect presentation....

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: ifish365]
      #284023 - 04/07/07 10:05 AM

ifish365,
There are certainly people that agree with you about the Harringtons as bobber rods but there are fewer and fewer of them. I do not buy the arguement that they make good bobber rods for the following reason. The Harringtons are very heavy and slow in reacting. So when you have quite a bit of line out to the bobber and the bait is 8 or 10 or 12 feet or even more below the bobber, and maybe the tide is running so you have a big belly in your line, when the bobber reacts the key to getting the hook in the fish is to be able to pull a lot of line very quickly. When you come back very hard on the Harrington it is very slow to respond so there is not much force at the hook. A powerful graphite rod will react much more rapidly resulting in much more force at the hook.
If you look around in your area you will notice that most all of the experienced bobber fishermen are converting to graphite and their Harrington's are sitting in their garages.
If you are not convinced Lamiglas is now making some glass blanks that are almost identical to the old Harringtons but they are made of better fiberglas. I can get the model numbers for you if you are interested.


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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Harry]
      #284026 - 04/07/07 10:21 AM

i do agree harry, my favorite bobber rod is still my sar1265c which is also a very slow rod, i hate the stiff kenai killer and similar, they do not cast good and they are too stiff when fighting fish on braid, i also like my harrington for sturgeon fishing and rockfishing from shore, they are very multi purpose for me, i like my 205 for bobber fishing springers, i was busting 30lb leaders left and right with my 1265 on the hookset. you do make some of the best all around bobber rods i have seen, and i believe those are a lamiglass blank.

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: ifish365]
      #284079 - 04/07/07 04:21 PM

ifish365,
Yes, I agree that a little slower action rod that is longer makes a better bobber rod than one that has a faster action and is shorter.
The speed that I was referring to above though was not really the action but the speed of recovery or the velocity. Graphite will recover much faster than glass. The higher tip velocity means more force at the hook. The one place where glass is probably better though is in the combat fishing where there are a lot of rods around banging into each other. Glass is much tougher than graphite. But there are a lot better glass rods available today than the old Harringtons. They were fine 25-30 years ago when we did not have anything better but not these days.


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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Harry]
      #284088 - 04/07/07 06:00 PM

how about seekers??

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Harry]
      #284089 - 04/07/07 06:00 PM

harry thats what my contact wanted was rod that could survive high contact combat zones. like those found at the bonni. 50 rods side byside. he however has not returned my email about the better glass rods mentioned further up the post. maybe he found another option. ???

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Brewer]
      #284091 - 04/07/07 06:15 PM

ifish365,
I am not really very familiar with the Seekers. I have heard pretty good things about them but I have just not seen very many of them.


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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Harry]
      #284094 - 04/07/07 06:53 PM

I have seen a lot of seekers, none of which have been FLOAT rods! Seeker makes a damn good rod tho, no complaints that i have heard of, only fished with a couple bottomfish sticks and they are pretty sweet!!!

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: CastawayChris]
      #284103 - 04/07/07 08:25 PM

chris, why aren't they a good float rod? 9' 20-40 1pc, seems like descent specs for a bobber rod. just curious.

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: ifish365]
      #284108 - 04/07/07 09:24 PM

Well, i personally don't think i've seen a nine foot 20-40lb seeker that wasn't built with Eva grips sturgeon or bottomfish style, 9 ft is also not long enuff for myself and 75% of my fishin is done with a float! I don't go under 9'6"! I'm guessing that rod would be very heavy as well! My guess is that is a live bait rod for lings/other bottom species!!!

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: CastawayChris]
      #284122 - 04/08/07 08:54 AM

http://www.charkbait.com/cs/csrodsSKRBLANKS.htm


these seem like pure ocean style fishing rods. couldn't find a 10'er.

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      #284133 - 04/08/07 10:47 AM

Yeah seeker specializes in Saltwater just like i thought!!!

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: CastawayChris]
      #284173 - 04/08/07 08:11 PM

i know that, but i have seen them tied for salmon and they seemed nice to me, i was not reffering to the cork tape and eva handle factory rod. i think years ago they bought sabre, and those are a nice salt water rod. seeker i believe does as well have a line of salmon rods, i'm not positive though.

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: ifish365]
      #284186 - 04/08/07 09:18 PM

Yes Seaker makes great blanks.
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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Will fish for food]
      #284245 - 04/09/07 09:56 AM

ifish365, i don't know about Seeker buying out Sabre, but i wouldn't doubt it! I'll have to research that for they do feel similiar! I have a couple of the old sabres sittin here!!!

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      #284249 - 04/09/07 10:13 AM

Chris,
You got a Sabre 20-50 lb. 6.5 - 7 ft?

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Trouthead]
      #284257 - 04/09/07 10:45 AM

Actually i got two of them, one thats got about an its broke off of it so its like 6'5", pretty fast action, AWSOME keeper sturgeon rod,lings, or halibut! I also got a 7 footer thats got the handle set for a spinning or casting rod, this would also be a great sturge or ling rod!!! Both rods seem to be in the 20-50lb class, but there are no blank numbers on them! I'll pm ya additionaly info!!!

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      #284259 - 04/09/07 10:49 AM

Cool. I need information on the 7 footer. Spinning or casting? Real big eyes? Has not been broken?

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Re: Harrington blanks wanted new [Re: Trouthead]
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