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What does the Governers tag get ya for $65,000.00 + about
another $12,000.00 in guide fees get ya?
The hunter was Dan Agnew from Vancouver.
The bull is a 9x10, with a green score of 450” plus.
It will be the new WA state record.
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let me guess. one of those farm raised bulls that are fed steroids to get huge racks right? then wait till the bull wanders over to the water trough. lay rifle on fence post and BANG!
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Negative. It was taken in the Blues Mountains. Locals knew about it and had found it's sheds.
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holy shiz!
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Monster!!!
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Is that a Rosie? Look at the crowned out rack. I can tell you it is a certifiable TOAD!!!
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Eastern Washington Governor's tag. Rocky Mountain Elk.
One of my clients regularly guides for the Governor's tag in Western Washington, near Lake Quinault.
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Never seen a Rocky with crowns like that, but I rarely see bulls anyhow...
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wow...awesome trophy.
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Rumor has it, once the sheds were made known on the ol internet, last years Govenors tag shot up from $15K to $45K. Then the past years shed were found and the price skyrocketed.
Anyone else beside me notice the lack of hunter orange? Maybe because it's BEFORE anyone else is allowed in the woods, they are not required to wear it.
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Goodness!
Sure doesn't look like a Rocky.....but I have never seen a bull that big other than in Yellowstone.
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I've hunted elk for 35 years over in God's country, and have only seen rocky mtn. elk with split racks, never a crowned out rack like that. Only time I've ever seen a rack like that was on the wet side in Rosie country. I'm not calling foul, but that rack is unlike anything I've seen on the dry side.
You know, if you pay big bucks for a tag, maybe you get to hunt wherever you want???
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Someday I dream of shooting a bull like that......right out from under some dude that paid sixty grand for the tag and had a team of guides scouting for him! How sweet would that be!
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Jake....a true Drooler...low hole the high-rollers. I like your style.
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hellaof a critter... now how do I get me one of them tags
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Whoah!!! I saw an elk JUST like that last night! And then I woke up because I had to pee.
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The Blue Mountains does put out some serious big bulls!!!
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Big bull! But not a hunter a killer. I would be more stoked over a raghorn bull killed on a DIY hunt with a tag in an area anyone can hunt. Not to hard to pay for a tag, have 10 guys looking for a bull, get video of the bull, like him and go shoot him. But that is just me. LIL
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Totally agree Lilfisher. From the outside looking in, if this guy sits in his office and watches video of "prospects" from all the scouts, then decides that one of the photos meets his minimum requirements and basically shows up to pull the trigger, I'm far from impressed. I'll take one of the raghorns or the paltry 6 pt. that was bugling it's brains out 75 yards from me yesterday on a scouting trip. That said, that is one beautiful animal. (Wenaha) WA/OR border.
By the way, this is far from the first time he's spent big dollars to hang a large rack on his wall. Kinda reminds me of a friend of mine that has sheep hunting disease. He went to Russia on a hunt and the guides took him into a room with huge ram heads lining the wall. They told him to pick out the one he wanted. He said I came here to hunt one like that for myself. Seems most hunters paying that kind of money to hunt go for the first choice, then they go out and shoot the first animal they see. When they tell the tale of the hunt they insert the huge ram, that they bought off the wall, into the story. We have lost respect, in my opinion, for the game, when we shrug this off and are impressed by guy who can pay the most. It's always been that way, though, and always will.
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I agree, it may not be a very challenging hunt with a bunch of guides holding your hand, but that is one hell of an animal. Looks like a giant imperial stag!
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All I can say is that's a lot of bull
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YIKES!!!
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Do Rosevelt Bulls get that big (Olympic Pen)
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Nice animal, guided hunts aren't for me.
I'm making a generalization here, but I can't stand rich dudes who act like they are god's gift to hunting when all they do is follow men who are true hunters just to pull the trigger.
How can you achieve true hunting satisfaction in this manner?
If I can't get it on my own, they I'm not getting it.
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Nice bull....I could only dream of having an extra $77k laying around to spend on a trip like that. Generally speaking, i'm with Luke and Lil on this one...i'll take a raggy that I got by myself.
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Raggy any day of the week. Canned hunts are just not my style and I would have a hard time shaking a guys hand who got the record doing one. But to each his own. Now I do have a hard time buying into the picture. My brother found a shed that had been lating on the ground for atleast two months two years ago. Measured out with the back tines eaten off by squirrels, it came out to a 407 1/2". That is only a couple of inches off the Idaho State record. Most likely it would have been a state record with what were suspected missing rear tines. I'll tell you what though. Not a single damn one of those beams on the shed were any where near as big around as a mans arm like the one in the picture shown. I call bull!
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Although I'm in total agreement with the rest of ya's, I'm going to play devils advocate.
If I was worth millions and hand $100K to blow on something I loved to do, would I do it? I'd have to say I just might. Hard to say, because unless I win the Lotto or my company goes public, it's probly not going to happen.
But, would I feel that something was missing? I'd have to say definitely yes.
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What if you owned a few dozen thousand acres in MT, and bagged one on your own private land, (legally of course) and your 'guide' was your ranch mgr? Essentially it would be your own private hunting reserve, and others could only hunt there with your permission. Does that somehow make it less challenging?
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Cmon Powerball 
Oh wait, that would mean I'd actually have to buy a ticket.
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To me it's a question of do you want to be a hunter or a shooter. If I'm going to your 12,000 acres in Montana and have never set foot on it before, I'm going to need some guidence. If I booked with a guide (never have), I would make it clear before hand that I am interested in hunting, not shooting and that I want to be a partner in finding, spotting and stalking. As far as gutting, skinning and packing, for me, I feel I owe the animal some effort and sweat, if I have decided to harvest him. Just my 2 cents.
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wageslave said: ... As far as gutting, skinning and packing, for me, I feel I owe the animal some effort and sweat, if I have decided to harvest him. Just my 2 cents.
Wageslave, I'm with you 100%. I have never been able to afford a guided hunt, and probably never will be able to. Even if I could, I can't see spending that kind of cash having someone show me a critter to shoot (especially if there were fences involved).
I did shoot a white-tail on a certain board members place a few years ago. It was almost an accident, but after 2 weekends of hunting my butt off, I figure I sort of earned a gimmee buck.
He and I were glassing the hill, before we were gonna have a beer, and saw a "shooter". I still had to make the shot with a borrowed rifle at over 225 yards, which is no gimmee for me. It was no trophy by most peoples standards, but it was my first whitey, and I shot it on a friends place, with him, which made it one of the best bucks ever. We may not have hiked in 3 miles, and scouted for days in that spot, but I still call it a quality hunt, because my friend got me into a great animal.
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workin4fishin said: What if you owned a few dozen thousand acres in MT, and bagged one on your own private land, (legally of course) and your 'guide' was your ranch mgr? Essentially it would be your own private hunting reserve, and others could only hunt there with your permission. Does that somehow make it less challenging?
It depends on what angle you look at it from. The fact that it is your land means that it is not public land and that, therefore, makes it easier. What I mean is that there is less competition and as a result you most likely have a chance at a less human wary animal. In turn, making it easier. The fact that a ranch manager found the location of the anmimal and its existence and not yourself through the hours and days of scouting and hiking to find the best locations to get on animals would, in turn, mean that it is easier. So yes, in almost every aspect. The only aspect that does not get any easier, is the work after the kill. unless of course the ranch manager does that too.
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If i had the funds i'd book hunts in all those far flung trophy hotspots you read and hear about. I'd make it clear I wanted to actively hunt. If i'm not working for it, It woud'nt feel right to me. hunting private land is one thing....................Land with a high fence is something else entirely and really hunting and whatever you call that are far from the same thing.Plenty of things i do not agree with with the way this critter was taken...............Gang hunting or guiding being the first I could think of.........Also not a fan of "Governors Tags" or 'Raffel Tags" or the like.......... And I don't support organizations that use them.Anything that excludes all but the rich in the world of hunting is flat out wrong........Put that tag on a draw system like the super tags here in Idaho and I guarantee it'll generate as much or more than what this dude paid for it..............and give EVERY hunter a chance at it...................
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People jumping to (wrong) conclusions here. My example was not a hypothetical one. You don't know my wealthy acqaintance, his land, or his hunting ethics. Why would you assume? His land is private and he gets to say who can hunt there (this is America and we do actually have non-socialistic property rights), but I didn't say he has high fences, or keeps everyone off. Why would you assume? His ranch mgr was his 'guide', (more like hunting buddy) and I didn't say he just found it and led him to it, or even did all the work. Why would you assume? Then again, I didn't say he walked all the 10's of 1000's of acres himself, humping a wks worth of provisions solo, scouting with a vintage 1860's cavalry scope, and crawling through brush for miles. Why would you assume?
Do you have a philosophical issue with anyone who has a big chunk of money in the bank? ...and please don't assume that it was ill-gotten, inherited, lottery, or otherwise such sourced.
Would you feel better if he were just a 'regular Joe' working next to you, and just happened to have a place on a small parcel of land where the critters just couldn't keep themselves away from, and the hunting was legal?
Know anybody with river-side property, that they legally have every right to control access through? Does them fishing that bank make them any less an angler? What about people they let cross the land and fish there?
Sorry - got a bit touchy there. I really don't understand why people almost reflexively resent wealthy hunters. Maybe he should limit himself to public land, a 1973 Ford F-150, and a low-end rifle with open sights to make it more 'sporting'.
oh, and those evil people with the nice sleds on the river... Ohhh how it's soo unfair.
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The governor's tag guy is who my comments were pointed at. not your buddy. If he's got the land it's his buisness what he does with it. But yeah i'll say point blank..... if he's gotten used to shooting unhunted critters on the private stuff, motivated DIY public land types will hunt circles around him and are better hunters....
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Everyone's panties are getting in a bit of a bunch here. The idea of fair chase in most common hunter opnion, I would think, would be inline with the " old west " ideal. In that all the animal and land were as free to anyone as the next. I think that is more what is being said here. Correct me if I am wrong gemstatejake.
Governors tags don't afford equal oppurtunity in the slightest bit. That is ultimately what this is all about. Your friend and the reference about land and privately owned etc. did very much appear to be a hypathetical situation if not in a very left handed way. Regardless, I think everyone of us here would agree that we would all like to have a large parcel of land with which we could use as we see fit, i.e. hunting privately. But it is also very easy to ridicule when it is not ours or we don't benefit from it. It is human nature at its best and a fault to say the least, but existent none the less. I don't think it would be right to take any bit of this conversation, debate or what have you in any way, shape or form other than just that.
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I don't think anyone was resenting people just because they are rich. I believe it had to do with choice of hunting method more than anything. A wealthy man can afford to pay experienced guides who are the actual hunters to pretty much hold their hands and lead them to an animal. Or a wealthy man can go out on his own and hunt an animal using his own personal skill.
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