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my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$
      #237342 - 03/10/06 03:22 PM

my 1989 cheyanne pickiup.. i changed the plugs and it just stopped running could it be the gas or the gas pump??? it just keeps cranking and no response from the motor.. and i pulled the plug out and the arch is white. just running it a mile out from the house i need info please

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: deckhanddoug]
      #237343 - 03/10/06 03:30 PM

is it gitting gas

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: JimW]
      #237344 - 03/10/06 03:30 PM

por alittle lick 3 oz down the throughtl body and try it

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: JimW]
      #237345 - 03/10/06 03:31 PM

A little like soryy typing to fast lol


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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: JimW]
      #237346 - 03/10/06 03:42 PM

i tried some carb&choke cleaner and it didn't start yet

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: deckhanddoug]
      #237350 - 03/10/06 04:24 PM

Did you check the gap on the plugs before you installed them? Also, is there a chance some of the wires got switched around???? Sounds like the timing could be off.

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: SKYGUY]
      #237355 - 03/10/06 05:03 PM

Ok here's one thing to try.....
CHECK ALL YOUR FUSES.
I coughed a fuse in my 1989 chev while towing my sled. Crusing along the freeway and then nothing. like I had turned off the key.
Had it towed and was asked at the garage if I was towing anything... HUH???
Turns out the brake lights AND the computer are on the same circuit.
$300.00 later for the price of a $0.30 fuse
Could be fuel pump, those years had a plastic baffle in the fuel tank that would come loose and take out the pump. Cost me $900.00 to fix that one
Or it could be the ignition module in the distributor, that cost me $400.00 as I recall :doublesteamed:
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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: fishhog]
      #237357 - 03/10/06 05:12 PM

check what skyguy said first, if you were in there tinkerin around you may have bumped something loose.
-plug wires
-distibutor cap/ rotor
-batterys terminals

check the fuel filter too, if the truck was sittin for awhile it may have little gummed up fuel in it.

dont listen to any of this drive a ford/dodge/toyota mess either. old chevys will run for a good long time.

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: TwistAround]
      #237392 - 03/10/06 09:05 PM

check for spark first. If its fuel pump dont drop the tank pull the bed its faster. Does that motor still have a HEI? If no spark module might be the prob. The first will take about 30 40 min to change then 15 min after that. You need a screwdriver and a 5/16 nut driver and dialectic grease. Go to a repair book for the steps. Oh don't forget to to take the neg battery term off before taking any thing off or you might spike the puter.
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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Will fish for food]
      #237410 - 03/10/06 10:13 PM

Check the computer fuse, check for spark WITH A REAL SPARK TESTER. Letting the spark just go to ground by holding the plug on a ground doesn't ground it enough. That can fry things with EFI. Check to make shure your plug wires are right. Go spend $15.95 for a Haynes or Chilton manual for it. The best money you'll put in it. Sounds like spark, It would have spit and sputtered on the carb cleaner. Be carefull with that stuff Doug, real flamable...

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Klicknative]
      #237417 - 03/10/06 10:30 PM

I need to add, that is as simple as fuel injection gets. Parts are reasonable too.

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Klicknative]
      #237496 - 03/11/06 05:46 PM

Doug it sounds like you did something you should'nt have in the tune up Been there done that . If my fogged brain can remember I'd first check and make sure you have the wires going to the right plugs. Been there done that Changing 8 wires with with two different ends can be confusing at your age. Been there done that I realize this is stress that you don't need but you need to man up and be prapared. Also they call it HEI for a reason (High Energy Ignition) Make sure the key is off and nobody is in the the driver seat that can turn the key. Yes I've been there and done that also

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Southfork]
      #237512 - 03/11/06 07:48 PM

Yep a HEI has a bite to it. The first thing is to check for spark. If no spark is the power wire still hooked up (don't ask)pull the cap and look at the rotor is it all the way down and not burnt. Now the module is next. not sure how to test one
but if it cranks and doesn't fire I'd look there.
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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Will fish for food]
      #237562 - 03/12/06 03:49 PM

Havin' any luck?

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Klicknative]
      #237571 - 03/12/06 07:46 PM

have you kicked the tires?

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Brewer]
      #237595 - 03/12/06 09:56 PM

Quote:

The Brewer said:
have you kicked the tires?



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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Musicman]
      #237605 - 03/12/06 11:38 PM

the rotor and cap and wires are brand new when i bought the truck.. the fuel pump is working and i am in the process of taking the fuel filter off and replaced and hopefully the filter is it


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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: deckhanddoug]
      #237606 - 03/13/06 01:23 AM

Do a flow test, might want to replace it anyways if it hasn't been done...peace of mind. Keep us posted..

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Musicman]
      #237611 - 03/13/06 06:23 AM

Just because the rotor and cap wires are new doesn't mean you haven't crossed 'em up and put cylinder 1 into cylinder 5's location. Double check all the plug wires and cap.
In case you don't label the wires, (yet), duct tape wrapped around them and a Sharpie prevents crossed wires in the future. Hope that you get it figured out soon.


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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Tony1831]
      #237659 - 03/13/06 12:45 PM

I've had new distributor caps crack just a couple months after installing. Sometimes they barely run, most the time they won't.

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: kwaj]
      #237750 - 03/13/06 10:29 PM

Even with several wires crossed it should still start....don't ask me how I know this...besides, I replaced a 4cyl motor and had the firing order correct but the rotation was the opposite so only 1 or 2 were firing correctly...still started...ran like crap and the cat converter was glowing red due to all the unburned fuel being dumped down teh exhaust....took me a couple hours to find my mess up...
If you got fuel to the injectors/cylinders, won't start with starting fluid...i'd think electrical.

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Musicman]
      #237897 - 03/14/06 07:28 PM

it started today but then i moved it and i think the anti-freeze didn't like this cold weather


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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: deckhanddoug]
      #237992 - 03/15/06 12:43 PM

What does that mean? Did you let the cooling system cool tooooo much? Let the weather warm up, change it and gitterdone! Keeep us posted Doooogy!

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Musicman]
      #238040 - 03/15/06 08:13 PM

TIMING!
If the coolant didn't freeze and crack something your OK! Did you move the distributor at all? A single miss placed wire will cause it to run really rough and two in the wrong place can cause overheating. Been there....done that


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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Southfork]
      #238041 - 03/15/06 08:17 PM

What year is the motor? I can scan some factory manuals if I have them....

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Southfork]
      #238050 - 03/15/06 09:06 PM

If it started when it warmed up, first replace the fuse. It might have a hairline break the pulls apart when cold.
This happend to a friend and it was $300 in test and the fix was a $.49 fuse.
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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Will fish for food]
      #238062 - 03/15/06 11:02 PM

It's a chevy, make shure you didn't cross plug #5 and #7, the two on the back of the left (driver's side) of the engine. When it was running, was the check engine light on?

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Will fish for food]
      #238178 - 03/16/06 04:33 PM

WFFF is correct IMO and the ignition module is also solid state and can do some strange things when tempratures are involved.

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: Southfork]
      #238198 - 03/16/06 06:29 PM

I still say it is a fuel delivery problem or an ignition module.
I remember a similar situation with my 89, she would run fine. But, intermittantly (like once every month or so) the damn thing would not start after I ran it awhile and parked it. Sometimes it would start if I let it sit for a bit. Twice I towed the thing to a garage via towstrap, only to have it start right up when the mechanic was trying to diagnose the problem
Never did figure that one out, I just kicked it to the curb. She left me hanging too many times.

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Re: my truck isn't starting!@#%^$$ new [Re: fishhog]
      #238537 - 03/18/06 10:19 PM

Well Doug, is it terminail?

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