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my 1989 cheyanne pickiup.. i changed the plugs and it just stopped running could it be the gas or the gas pump??? it just keeps cranking and no response from the motor.. and i pulled the plug out and the arch is white. just running it a mile out from the house i need info please
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is it gitting gas
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por alittle lick 3 oz down the throughtl body and try it
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A little like soryy typing to fast lol
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i tried some carb&choke cleaner and it didn't start yet
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Did you check the gap on the plugs before you installed them? Also, is there a chance some of the wires got switched around???? Sounds like the timing could be off.
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Ok here's one thing to try.....
CHECK ALL YOUR FUSES.
I coughed a fuse in my 1989 chev while towing my sled. Crusing along the freeway and then nothing. like I had turned off the key.
Had it towed and was asked at the garage if I was towing anything... HUH???
Turns out the brake lights AND the computer are on the same circuit. 
$300.00 later for the price of a $0.30 fuse
Could be fuel pump, those years had a plastic baffle in the fuel tank that would come loose and take out the pump. Cost me $900.00 to fix that one
Or it could be the ignition module in the distributor, that cost me $400.00 as I recall :doublesteamed:
As you can tell, I'm somewhat versed. If you have qurestions, feel free to give me a call. For nothing less, a shoulder to cry on. I'm no mechanic, but I feel your pain.
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check what skyguy said first, if you were in there tinkerin around you may have bumped something loose.
-plug wires
-distibutor cap/ rotor
-batterys terminals
check the fuel filter too, if the truck was sittin for awhile it may have little gummed up fuel in it.
dont listen to any of this drive a ford/dodge/toyota mess either. old chevys will run for a good long time.
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check for spark first. If its fuel pump dont drop the tank pull the bed its faster. Does that motor still have a HEI? If no spark module might be the prob. The first will take about 30 40 min to change then 15 min after that. You need a screwdriver and a 5/16 nut driver and dialectic grease. Go to a repair book for the steps. Oh don't forget to to take the neg battery term off before taking any thing off or you might spike the puter.
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Check the computer fuse, check for spark WITH A REAL SPARK TESTER. Letting the spark just go to ground by holding the plug on a ground doesn't ground it enough. That can fry things with EFI. Check to make shure your plug wires are right. Go spend $15.95 for a Haynes or Chilton manual for it. The best money you'll put in it. Sounds like spark, It would have spit and sputtered on the carb cleaner. Be carefull with that stuff Doug, real flamable... 
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I need to add, that is as simple as fuel injection gets. Parts are reasonable too.
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Doug it sounds like you did something you should'nt have in the tune up  Been there done that  . If my fogged brain can remember I'd first check and make sure you have the wires going to the right plugs. Been there done that  Changing 8 wires with with two different ends can be confusing at your age. Been there done that I realize this is stress that you don't need but you need to man up and be prapared. Also they call it HEI for a reason (High Energy Ignition) Make sure the key is off and nobody is in the the driver seat that can turn the key. Yes I've been there and done that also 
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Yep a HEI has a bite to it. The first thing is to check for spark. If no spark is the power wire still hooked up (don't ask)pull the cap and look at the rotor is it all the way down and not burnt. Now the module is next. not sure how to test one
but if it cranks and doesn't fire I'd look there.
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Havin' any luck? 
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have you kicked the tires?
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Quote:
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have you kicked the tires?
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the rotor and cap and wires are brand new when i bought the truck.. the fuel pump is working and i am in the process of taking the fuel filter off and replaced and hopefully the filter is it
thanks guys for the info
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Do a flow test, might want to replace it anyways if it hasn't been done...peace of mind. Keep us posted..
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Just because the rotor and cap wires are new doesn't mean you haven't crossed 'em up and put cylinder 1 into cylinder 5's location. Double check all the plug wires and cap.
In case you don't label the wires, (yet), duct tape wrapped around them and a Sharpie prevents crossed wires in the future. Hope that you get it figured out soon.
Have you tried dumping 2 - 4 ounces of gas into the throttle?
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I've had new distributor caps crack just a couple months after installing. Sometimes they barely run, most the time they won't.
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Even with several wires crossed it should still start....don't ask me how I know this...besides, I replaced a 4cyl motor and had the firing order correct but the rotation was the opposite so only 1 or 2 were firing correctly...still started...ran like crap and the cat converter was glowing red due to all the unburned fuel being dumped down teh exhaust....took me a couple hours to find my mess up...
If you got fuel to the injectors/cylinders, won't start with starting fluid...i'd think electrical.
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it started today but then i moved it and i think the anti-freeze didn't like this cold weather
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What does that mean? Did you let the cooling system cool tooooo much? Let the weather warm up, change it and gitterdone! Keeep us posted Doooogy!
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TIMING!
If the coolant didn't freeze and crack something your OK! Did you move the distributor at all? A single miss placed wire will cause it to run really rough and two in the wrong place can cause overheating. Been there....done that
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What year is the motor? I can scan some factory manuals if I have them....
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If it started when it warmed up, first replace the fuse. It might have a hairline break the pulls apart when cold.
This happend to a friend and it was $300 in test and the fix was a $.49 fuse.
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It's a chevy, make shure you didn't cross plug #5 and #7, the two on the back of the left (driver's side) of the engine. When it was running, was the check engine light on?
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WFFF is correct IMO and the ignition module is also solid state and can do some strange things when tempratures are involved.
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I still say it is a fuel delivery problem or an ignition module.
I remember a similar situation with my 89, she would run fine. But, intermittantly (like once every month or so) the damn thing would not start after I ran it awhile and parked it. Sometimes it would start if I let it sit for a bit. Twice I towed the thing to a garage via towstrap, only to have it start right up when the mechanic was trying to diagnose the problem 
Never did figure that one out, I just kicked it to the curb. She left me hanging too many times.
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Well Doug, is it terminail?
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i have all the plug wires right and i might get some coolent sealer for the block.. it says it will get rid of the crack or whatever it is.
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What year is the motor? I can scan some factory manuals if I have them....
its an 89
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Good luck. Check the frezze plugs on the side of the block.
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it was the freeze plug on the drivers side and it had a screw on it so it can pop on and off its also got a sensor on it.. so im in luck!!!
i still got to find a way to get the sucker back into the motor w/o having to tow it to town and have a shop put it in
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Are you shure that's not a block heater? If it's out, that's the hard part allready done. You may need a new one, the toggle nut that holds it in may be bent beyond repair. If you need one take the old one to the parts store so they can match it up. Don't just get a quick plug, get a heater. You are in Alaska. Fill it back up with at least 50% anti-frezze, 50% water. Wouldn't hurt to put in the block seal, just be shure it will run long enough so it will warm up to circulate it. READ THE INSTUCTIONS ON EVERYTING.  You don't want to have to do this twice. Did you get a manual?
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Are you shure that's not a block heater? If it's out, that's the hard part allready done. You may need a new one, the toggle nut that holds it in may be bent beyond repair. If you need one take the old one to the parts store so they can match it up. Don't just get a quick plug, get a heater. You are in Alaska. Fill it back up with at least 50% anti-frezze, 50% water. Wouldn't hurt to put in the block seal, just be shure it will run long enough so it will warm up to circulate it. READ THE INSTUCTIONS ON EVERYTING. You don't want to have to do this twice. Did you get a manual?
you are SO right it is the block heater and i'm going to see if Napa has any of those or if they have to order it i guess im a lucky SOB
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They'll have it.
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they have to order it and its $45.45 for it and i hope i can get it back into the motor w/o messing it up
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Doug welcome to the real world. I suggest you buy a pair of mechanics gloves. They are worth money and do wonders for bleeding knuckles. Without them you be scared. I'm still wondering how a engine block heater can can a no start 
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$45.45 and they had to order it?!? What the hell kind of parts stores they got up there? Shop around next time, your wallet will thank you.
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it's s.e. alaska, they just got a wal mart a few years ago, that's why it is a great place to be, it's still a little primative. when i was there i never saw a guy rushing down the street wearing a suit and holding a brief case. shopping around never did me alot of good, you are lucky if there is one store that sells the product you are looking for, even more so on pow where i spent most of my time.
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Yeah, But that has to be a popular part, there are lots of Chevy pickups in Alaska. The same one should fit about any Chevy pickup from about 1960 to '99. I bet the NAPA in Goldendale has it and we don't have a wally world. Oh SF, he found he had a coolant leak when he went to try to start it again. Hopefully Doug's pickup doesn't have too many more "issuses".
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Well Doug, are you gaining on it?
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i had it stopped leaking for 3 days w/o leaks.then yesterday i started it and moved it up to the house and then i moved it back and it just poured out agian . im just about to have the shop down the road fix it
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You may not have got the heater in tight enough. Make shure it's in there square, ect.
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i ordered a regular frost plug because i lost the butterfly nut in the water passage so all i need now is the wheel cylinder on the back pass side brake
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i pulled the drum off the rear brake that has the bad wheel cylinder on it and the shoes were all bad and as soon as i pulled the drum off a part of the shoe fell out and was bent to hell so im going to probably put everything back together and drive it to the shop and have them fix it..
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