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Hey BG, You got a report yet?
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Yes the pilot test and report is in draft stage.
BG
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Must be VERY early in the test stage; rod handle still has the plastic wrap. :>)
But, "Torridge?" Names not framilier Mike.
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I will have a report up this weekend off to my sons conference football championship game now against another undefeated team !!
BG
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That will be the Snowbee XS-P Torridge at a wild guess - didn't look at the label honest. I will be very interested to see what you think of it - the Snowbee 15ft 10/11 has had very good reviews here in the UK and on http://www.speypages.com/rods.htm
What is the reel BTW?
(Fred - The name Torridge is taken from a river in North Devon).
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Sorry, meant to add (if you didn't know) that Snowbee UK are based in Devon - they have another rod in this series called the Tamar, which is another river down there. From memory one is 12ft and the other 12ft 6in but I can't remember which is which. (The rods, not the rivers).
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Yes bankend is correct. Hell BG I figured by now you would have that rod wore out. All the Snowbee rods are pretty nice. They are quite "snappy", think poor man's T&T. They have a bag and cordura covered tube, nice fittings, a lifetime warranty, and a great price point from $375.00 for the 12' Torridge to the 16'-11/12 at $490.00. All the sizes can be seen here: http://www.redshedflyshop.com/SNOWBEESPEY.html
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Thanks Mike! Have to agree with you, the 'price point' will get folks to sit up and take notice. Also liked the way you put in the 'op. grain wt' for line heads. Sorts out a lot of wasted moola trying to choose an appropriate line for a rod.
Also, Bankend, WELCOME to the Board.
Fred
Forgot to add: Mike, you appear to be one of the few, if only, Snowbee dealer(s) I've come across in the US. When did you take on their 'line?'
Fred
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I've been selling Snowbee two handers as well as the Snowbee spey lines and reels since July 2005. Jack Cook of the Irish Angler also sells them and I believe Aaron at River Run Anglers sells the lines as well.
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Snowbee XS-P Spey - Torridge
Review Snowbbee Torridge - XS-P Spey 12 foot 6/7 12ft #6/7 OHW 20g/ 310 grains
Above is the link to the Snowbee site and their write up on their new Torridge and Tamar XS-P Spey rods. I took a Torridge for a trial test the last week from Red Shed (Mike) to determine if it would meet my needs for a light spey rod for trout and smallmouth bass river fishing. I was not sure if a 5/6 or 6/7 12 foot spey is what I needed for fish that run under 5 lbs in weight 90% of the time.
I have included several pictures of the Torridge also.
I test casted with a Rio Windcutter 5/6, Windcutter 7/8/9 and a Scientific Anglers Head Start 9 wgt line. The windcutters were also casted with several different lengths of Rio T-14 sink tips.
Single spey casts of up to about 70 feet were made with ease a little less with the sink tips attached.
The Torridge was designed for sea trout, salmon, and steelhead small rivers per Snowbee where long casts are not required to me that would be a river like this one I fish which is less than 70 feet across in most stretchs and has lots of overhanging vegetation where a longer spey rod can be a liability.
The Torridge was designe d to cast short head spey lines which are perfect for smaller rivers like above.
I found the rod to cast very easily each of the above lines tested. The WC 7/8/9 appeared better for using with the T-14 sink tips. The rod has a fast action with nice sensitivity in the tip. The Torridge should be a fine small river dry fly rod with the WC 5/6 for sea trout, salmon, steelhead under 10lbs in weight. Although in the hands of a competent fly fisher it could probably handle fish up to 15-20 lbs and it has some nice backbone to it.
I found it to be too heavy for the light trout and smallmouth bass river fishing I am seeking the right light spey rod for. The Torridge would be a great rod for the many small GLs steelhead rivers which make up 90% of out fishery.
Hence I will seriously considering purchasing this rod over the winter if I decide to add another steelhead rod to my quiver.
But the search for a light spey rod for regular river size trout and smallmouth bass continues for me. I am now convinced I need a 5/6 wgt 12 foot ultal ight spey rod but which one ? Sorry fellows not the MS Sage 5120 yet for $ 700 I still cannot justify that price after 3 years of wanting it, but lets not go there. LOL
Anyone looking for a small river steelhead and salmon rod should consider the Snowbee Torridge.
The finish is very nice and I especially liked the ferrule design which feels like graphite allowing the ferrules to be easily fitted, aligned, tightened, and taken apart. Not sure if you would even need to tape these ferrules ?
I think this rod is priced well at $ 375. It has a lifetime warranty to the original owner. See the link above for all details on the rod.
Red Shed can be contacted for further information on the Snowbee spey rods.
Hmmm well maybe I can make the Torridge a christmas present this year from the Princess, we will see.
Its great that Red Shed has the spey rod pilot test program as you cannot evauluate the rod by looking at it online or even holding them in a store. Really need to cast them and feel them with a few different lines to determine if it is for you.
Comments ?
BG
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Edited by Black_Ghost (10/18/05 03:31 PM)
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BG, Thank you for the test drive report. I am curious if you tried the 38' skagit line I sent you? Also I think you will be some disappointed when you finally actually test that little Sage on the river as I don't believe you will find it any lighter then the Torride.
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Mike, what's the weight of the rod in ounces? For that line weight(s) and length it can't be much. Fred
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On the rod it says HW 20 grams ? Their is no weight in ounces that I can see.
Its a great rod but overkill for the small trout,bass, carp under 5 lbs I am targetting.
I have cast the Sage which appeared to have more flex in it than the Torridge but that was two years ago. Another problem when not having the two rods together for a test.
I did not try the Skagit line did not have an empty reel spool it would fit on and did not want to take one off one of the larger reel spools
Maybe I should look at the TFO but I am not enthralled with their cosmetic look, was looking for something a little more classier.
Its a 5/6 12 ft trout spey I need which has a mid flex action. I can envision it I just cannot find it at this time on the market. Priced in the $ 300-400 range
Oh well being a fly fisherman for 46 years means you are a patient man, so thats what I will be.
Mike thanks again for the test opportunity it sures saves a lot of money and potential consumer dissatisfaction with the purchase of an expensive product. More fly shop owners should take this approach.

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Well a change situation The Princess saw me packing up the rod to send back to Red Shed (Mike) she must have seen the tears in my eyes and said well lets make it an early Christmas present so I will be ONLY be sending Mike back the demo lines with the check for the Torridge.
I guess I will continue the search for the Ultra light spey rod over the winter heck maybe I should just build my own if I could find a blank ?
You see how complicated this spey fly fishing stuff it is then you have to find a line to match the rod but I have a couple of those that will do for the Torridge right now.
God I both love and hate this sport of fly fishing !


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Well HOT DANG!! Way to Go Princess!!
All right .. you want a real 'spey trouter,' and you don't want to spend 'big bucks.' Here's what you do: Purchase the 5/6 Redington 11'3" one hander and have someone take off the very bottom of the rod handle and build you an extention from another small section of rod blank.
This is what I did (Bob Meiser did the handle extention for me) and it works like a charm, rather good looking rod, and will handle the fish (and larger) that you're targeting.
Price of the rod? Last I looked .... $160.00.
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Thanks I will check it out right now though its
Torridge time for fall run steelhead and browns behind the spawning king and coho salmon !
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if its a lite rod you want for little $$ call gary anderson. he has 12' 4w 2 handers. about $300, problem solved
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Hey Stupervisor, Gary Anderson builds some pretty nice rods. I am curious about what lines he recommends for his 4wt two handers. Do you know?
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i am using the rio steelhead and salmon line in 5w, also tried airflo 40+ had to go to 6w due to grains, made a mini skagit line from an old wc 8/9/10 if memory serves 300gr is what she likes. will weigh them and report back
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Will have to check them out this winter right now I am checking out the Torridge.
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It appears to throws a WC 7/8/9 well. Gave it a good work out the other day.
BG
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if its a light line spey you be wanting Gary Anderson has them, quick turn around 1 week and very price effective, also the belly from a wc 8/9/10 is all you need 24' of pure pseudo skagit bliss. will toss bfu's and tips with ease. perfect pm or little man stick. i know been using mine for 2 seasons now. hung some real aligators with that stick.
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bf
if you want to try that 1204 stick i can meet you on the dog and let you fish her.
it is one dialed in mother
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Gary is an excellent rod builder, and not bad as a designer either. He's working with Kerry Burkhiemer (sp) and Bob Meiser on several designs of rods he's putting out. The 12 footer line are all Burkheimer blanks.
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I can only deal with one new spey rod at a time. LOL
Unlike Mr. Evans.
BG
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didn't ask you to buy it, just test drive it is all.
about 1 hour out of your life. she is dialed in line wise and makes a trip to the dog at least 3 times a month.
would let you try way before you thought about buy. offer is there if you want.
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Quote:
Black_Ghost said:
I can only deal with one new spey rod at a time. LOL
Unlike Mr. Evans.
BG
If you saw how fast my bank balance is going down since retirement ...... Sigh ... all of that is 'past tense.' What's even worse!! is for the first time in about 20 years we even have an unpaid balance on a credit card.
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God I love this rod glad I was strong to deny the Sage 5120 temptations the last three years plus I saved about $ 300.
BG
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bf,
get one of those snowbee scando lines that bloody torridge will really sing.
gotta love the ridge dude
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S. Gawesworth - Torridge Review
Torridge review by Simon Gawesworth did not know this was his home river in the UK, nice little rod she is just what I was looking for, it does pull up those sink tips nicely.

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