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Torridge
      #209871 - 10/11/05 09:44 PM

Hey BG, You got a report yet?

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Re: Torridge new [Re: REDSHED]
      #209954 - 10/12/05 01:33 PM



Yes the pilot test and report is in draft stage.

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Re: Torridge new [Re: Black_Ghost]
      #210051 - 10/13/05 08:14 AM

Must be VERY early in the test stage; rod handle still has the plastic wrap.
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But, "Torridge?" Names not framilier Mike.

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Re: Torridge new [Re: fredaevans]
      #210239 - 10/14/05 12:26 PM

I will have a report up this weekend off to my sons conference football championship game now against another undefeated team !!

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Re: Torridge new [Re: Black_Ghost]
      #210289 - 10/14/05 07:11 PM

That will be the Snowbee XS-P Torridge at a wild guess - didn't look at the label honest. I will be very interested to see what you think of it - the Snowbee 15ft 10/11 has had very good reviews here in the UK and on http://www.speypages.com/rods.htm

What is the reel BTW?

(Fred - The name Torridge is taken from a river in North Devon).


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Re: Torridge new [Re: bankend]
      #210291 - 10/14/05 07:26 PM

Sorry, meant to add (if you didn't know) that Snowbee UK are based in Devon - they have another rod in this series called the Tamar, which is another river down there. From memory one is 12ft and the other 12ft 6in but I can't remember which is which. (The rods, not the rivers).

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Re: Torridge new [Re: bankend]
      #210298 - 10/14/05 07:44 PM

Yes bankend is correct. Hell BG I figured by now you would have that rod wore out. All the Snowbee rods are pretty nice. They are quite "snappy", think poor man's T&T. They have a bag and cordura covered tube, nice fittings, a lifetime warranty, and a great price point from $375.00 for the 12' Torridge to the 16'-11/12 at $490.00. All the sizes can be seen here: http://www.redshedflyshop.com/SNOWBEESPEY.html

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Re: Torridge new [Re: REDSHED]
      #210376 - 10/15/05 09:45 AM

Thanks Mike! Have to agree with you, the 'price point' will get folks to sit up and take notice. Also liked the way you put in the 'op. grain wt' for line heads. Sorts out a lot of wasted moola trying to choose an appropriate line for a rod.

Also, Bankend, WELCOME to the Board.
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Forgot to add: Mike, you appear to be one of the few, if only, Snowbee dealer(s) I've come across in the US. When did you take on their 'line?'
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Re: Torridge new [Re: fredaevans]
      #210496 - 10/16/05 08:02 AM

I've been selling Snowbee two handers as well as the Snowbee spey lines and reels since July 2005. Jack Cook of the Irish Angler also sells them and I believe Aaron at River Run Anglers sells the lines as well.

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Re: Torridge new [Re: REDSHED]
      #210686 - 10/17/05 02:12 PM



Snowbee XS-P Spey - Torridge


Review Snowbbee Torridge - XS-P Spey 12 foot 6/7 12ft #6/7 OHW 20g/ 310 grains

Above is the link to the Snowbee site and their write up on their new Torridge and Tamar XS-P Spey rods. I took a Torridge for a trial test the last week from Red Shed (Mike) to determine if it would meet my needs for a light spey rod for trout and smallmouth bass river fishing. I was not sure if a 5/6 or 6/7 12 foot spey is what I needed for fish that run under 5 lbs in weight 90% of the time.

I have included several pictures of the Torridge also.

I test casted with a Rio Windcutter 5/6, Windcutter 7/8/9 and a Scientific Anglers Head Start 9 wgt line. The windcutters were also casted with several different lengths of Rio T-14 sink tips.

Single spey casts of up to about 70 feet were made with ease a little less with the sink tips attached.

The Torridge was designed for sea trout, salmon, and steelhead small rivers per Snowbee where long casts are not required to me that would be a river like this one I fish which is less than 70 feet across in most stretchs and has lots of overhanging vegetation where a longer spey rod can be a liability.



The Torridge was designe d to cast short head spey lines which are perfect for smaller rivers like above.

I found the rod to cast very easily each of the above lines tested. The WC 7/8/9 appeared better for using with the T-14 sink tips. The rod has a fast action with nice sensitivity in the tip. The Torridge should be a fine small river dry fly rod with the WC 5/6 for sea trout, salmon, steelhead under 10lbs in weight. Although in the hands of a competent fly fisher it could probably handle fish up to 15-20 lbs and it has some nice backbone to it.

I found it to be too heavy for the light trout and smallmouth bass river fishing I am seeking the right light spey rod for. The Torridge would be a great rod for the many small GLs steelhead rivers which make up 90% of out fishery.

Hence I will seriously considering purchasing this rod over the winter if I decide to add another steelhead rod to my quiver.

But the search for a light spey rod for regular river size trout and smallmouth bass continues for me. I am now convinced I need a 5/6 wgt 12 foot ultal ight spey rod but which one ? Sorry fellows not the MS Sage 5120 yet for $ 700 I still cannot justify that price after 3 years of wanting it, but lets not go there. LOL

Anyone looking for a small river steelhead and salmon rod should consider the Snowbee Torridge.

The finish is very nice and I especially liked the ferrule design which feels like graphite allowing the ferrules to be easily fitted, aligned, tightened, and taken apart. Not sure if you would even need to tape these ferrules ?

I think this rod is priced well at $ 375. It has a lifetime warranty to the original owner. See the link above for all details on the rod.

Red Shed can be contacted for further information on the Snowbee spey rods.

Hmmm well maybe I can make the Torridge a christmas present this year from the Princess, we will see.

Its great that Red Shed has the spey rod pilot test program as you cannot evauluate the rod by looking at it online or even holding them in a store. Really need to cast them and feel them with a few different lines to determine if it is for you.

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Re: Torridge new [Re: Black_Ghost]
      #210722 - 10/17/05 04:42 PM

BG, Thank you for the test drive report. I am curious if you tried the 38' skagit line I sent you?
Also I think you will be some disappointed when you finally actually test that little Sage on the river as I don't believe you will find it any lighter then the Torride.


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Re: Torridge new [Re: REDSHED]
      #210817 - 10/18/05 06:04 AM

Mike, what's the weight of the rod in ounces? For that line weight(s) and length it can't be much.
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Re: Torridge new [Re: fredaevans]
      #210821 - 10/18/05 06:30 AM

On the rod it says HW 20 grams ? Their is no weight in ounces that I can see.

Its a great rod but overkill for the small trout,bass, carp under 5 lbs I am targetting.

I have cast the Sage which appeared to have more flex in it than the Torridge but that was two years ago. Another problem when not having the two rods together for a test.

I did not try the Skagit line did not have an empty reel spool it would fit on and did not want to take one off one of the larger reel spools

Maybe I should look at the TFO but I am not enthralled with their cosmetic look, was looking for something a little more classier.

Its a 5/6 12 ft trout spey I need which has a mid flex action. I can envision it I just cannot find it at this time on the market. Priced in the $ 300-400 range

Oh well being a fly fisherman for 46 years means you are a patient man, so thats what I will be.

Mike thanks again for the test opportunity it sures saves a lot of money and potential consumer dissatisfaction with the purchase of an expensive product. More fly shop owners should take this approach.



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Re: Torridge new [Re: Black_Ghost]
      #210824 - 10/18/05 06:47 AM

Well a change situation The Princess saw me packing up the rod to send back to Red Shed (Mike) she must have seen the tears in my eyes and said well lets make it an early Christmas present so I will be ONLY be sending Mike back the demo lines with the check for the Torridge.

I guess I will continue the search for the Ultra light spey rod over the winter heck maybe I should just build my own if I could find a blank ?

You see how complicated this spey fly fishing stuff it is then you have to find a line to match the rod but I have a couple of those that will do for the Torridge right now.

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Re: Torridge new [Re: Black_Ghost]
      #210853 - 10/18/05 10:08 AM

Well HOT DANG!! Way to Go Princess!!

All right .. you want a real 'spey trouter,' and you don't want to spend 'big bucks.' Here's what you do: Purchase the 5/6 Redington 11'3" one hander and have someone take off the very bottom of the rod handle and build you an extention from another small section of rod blank.

This is what I did (Bob Meiser did the handle extention for me) and it works like a charm, rather good looking rod, and will handle the fish (and larger) that you're targeting.

Price of the rod? Last I looked .... $160.00.

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Re: Torridge new [Re: fredaevans]
      #210869 - 10/18/05 01:00 PM

Thanks I will check it out right now though its

Torridge time for fall run steelhead and browns behind the spawning king and coho salmon !

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Re: Torridge new [Re: Black_Ghost]
      #211695 - 10/23/05 06:07 AM

if its a lite rod you want for little $$ call gary anderson. he has 12' 4w 2 handers. about $300, problem solved

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Re: Torridge new [Re: stupervisor]
      #211708 - 10/23/05 08:22 AM

Hey Stupervisor, Gary Anderson builds some pretty nice rods. I am curious about what lines he recommends for his 4wt two handers. Do you know?

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      #211710 - 10/23/05 09:02 AM

i am using the rio steelhead and salmon line in 5w, also tried airflo 40+ had to go to 6w due to grains, made a mini skagit line from an old wc 8/9/10 if memory serves 300gr is what she likes. will weigh them and report back

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Re: Torridge new [Re: stupervisor]
      #211954 - 10/24/05 02:41 PM

Will have to check them out this winter right now I am checking out the Torridge.

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      #211961 - 10/24/05 02:52 PM

It appears to throws a WC 7/8/9 well. Gave it a good work out the other day.

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      #212073 - 10/25/05 07:44 AM

if its a light line spey you be wanting Gary Anderson has them, quick turn around 1 week and very price effective, also the belly from a wc 8/9/10 is all you need 24' of pure pseudo skagit bliss. will toss bfu's and tips with ease. perfect pm or little man stick. i know been using mine for 2 seasons now. hung some real aligators with that stick.

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Re: Torridge new [Re: stupervisor]
      #212153 - 10/25/05 05:13 PM

bf

if you want to try that 1204 stick i can meet you on the dog and let you fish her.

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      #212234 - 10/26/05 10:01 AM

Gary is an excellent rod builder, and not bad as a designer either. He's working with Kerry Burkhiemer (sp) and Bob Meiser on several designs of rods he's putting out. The 12 footer line are all Burkheimer blanks.

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      #212343 - 10/26/05 06:15 PM

I can only deal with one new spey rod at a time. LOL

Unlike Mr. Evans.

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      #212347 - 10/26/05 06:22 PM

didn't ask you to buy it, just test drive it is all.

about 1 hour out of your life. she is dialed in line wise and makes a trip to the dog at least 3 times a month.

would let you try way before you thought about buy.
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      #212464 - 10/27/05 11:12 AM

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I can only deal with one new spey rod at a time. LOL

Unlike Mr. Evans.

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Re: Torridge new [Re: fredaevans]
      #213540 - 11/02/05 02:11 PM

God I love this rod glad I was strong to deny the Sage 5120 temptations the last three years plus I saved about $ 300.



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      #213980 - 11/04/05 05:57 PM

bf,

get one of those snowbee scando lines that bloody torridge will really sing.

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      #225176 - 12/26/05 02:01 PM

S. Gawesworth - Torridge Review

Torridge review by Simon Gawesworth did not know this was his home river in the UK, nice little rod she is just what I was looking for, it does pull up those sink tips nicely.



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      #225377 - 12/27/05 07:49 PM

Yo BG!! Many thanks for the connect to Simon's page. Didn't know he had one.

One fun read was about the Japanese's first 'spey clave.' Interesting to see a term I had 'coined' is alive and well 8'ish thousand miles to the west. (For not in the know, "clave," is a shortened term for 'conclave.')

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      #225606 - 12/29/05 07:21 AM

Spey Born

Yes another spey source plus check out his forumn over on Fly fisherman which is linked from his site Spey Born, not much talk over there these days though.

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      #225618 - 12/29/05 08:55 AM

Shot Simon a e mail yesterday and he was back to me in just a few minutes. Good chatting with him (couple since); sites been up for a couple of months.

Didn't think to ask him to join us here on the board ; will shoot him another e mail on that.
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Shot Simon a e mail with a 'link' to here; hope he decides to join us.

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      #225641 - 12/29/05 11:40 AM

Nice I am in annual year end web site review determining which f;y fishing ones will be dropped and new ones added for periodic weekly reviews.

Got any good new ones we should be aware of ?

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      #225642 - 12/29/05 11:42 AM

why complicate life, check all the ones you like

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why complicate life, check all the ones you like




Good answer! God knows there are a lot of them! One of my 'fav's' is the flyfishing forum board 'out of the UK.' Quite a group of people to put it mildly.

Did have fun a couple of weeks back when someone posted to the effect that they appeared to have the largest fly fishing board in the UK. May have been a bit deflaiting to them to find out the 'host board' is "Pro Boards" out of CALIFORNIA!!

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Re: Torridge new [Re: fredaevans]
      #225695 - 12/29/05 05:00 PM

Well that UK one has not derived much value for me the last year they are more concerned with ranting on each other than talking serious fly fishing time to move on for this Yank.

Found some others that look promising for 2006.

There are way to many of these boards out there thats for sure.

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      #225786 - 12/30/05 06:18 AM

Well BG, have to agree that the fellows (and a few of the ladies?) can get carried quite away with themselves. When they get on a rant ....! Post wouldn't last 5 minutes before it had been pulled and person put in 'private moderation.'

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Re: Torridge new [Re: fredaevans]
      #225918 - 12/30/05 07:54 PM

Give them my best I will stop in once in a while perhaps monthly to see who is being ranted on now. I have some new sites to cover that are more attuned to my current needs



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      #226199 - 01/01/06 04:27 PM

I have the same rod as FredA- Redington 11'3 mine is rated 6/7 - but feels and fishes as a 5/6. Medium action that works well on spey casts and short distance regular casts.

I did the switch conversion myself- cut off the reel seat- epoxied in a blank extension - and extended the upper grip overall length, by four corks -added a REC seat with a screw in fighting butt fitting- made a 6" "spey " lower grip and a 2 " standard extension- gives a choice between a spey rod and a standard rod.

I fish mine with a Cortland 444SL DT. Spey casts like a dream with big nymphs and small streamers/C,dads etc for Smallies/Walleye/Whitefish/Goldeye etc etc etc out to 70-80'

cost- Rod Ebay -$80.00US
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      #226218 - 01/01/06 05:56 PM

Little board -still wearing diapers and staggering around:)- warmwater FF,ing out of Manitoba- with a little spey content:)

http://watersidemb.proboards51.com/


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      #226313 - 01/02/06 05:33 AM

"Warm water" fly fishing in Manitoba? Sounds like an oxymoron.

Will, have to agree, the Reddington 'evolution' rod does fish very much like a 5wt. Hadn't really thought about that before.

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      #226314 - 01/02/06 05:44 AM

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Spey Born

Yes another spey source plus check out his forumn over on Fly fisherman which is linked from his site Spey Born, not much talk over there these days though.

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Interesting 'experience' yesterday; I had to go into the Admin. section of a ProBoards site (UK fellows) to up-load some $ to buy out the Google advertising. While doing same noticed their statistics: they 'host' OVER 1.4 MILLION individual chat boards. That's a heck of a lot of folks on the internet expressing their 'opinions.'

Reason I have to 'buy out' the advertising (money's sent over to me) is to register/open a board (at least through ProBoards who are just short of their 80'th full time server) is the 'owner of the board' has to have a verifiable US address and phone number.

That being the case, all 1.4+ million of these are folks 'here.' Chatty Cathy's' aren't we?

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Yep there are way too many chat boards for just about any subject matter you could think of, the good, the bad and the ugly !



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prairiespey said:
I have the same rod as FredA- Redington 11'3 mine is rated 6/7 - but feels and fishes as a 5/6. Medium action that works well on spey casts and short distance regular casts.

I did the switch conversion myself- cut off the reel seat- epoxied in a blank extension - and extended the upper grip overall length, by four corks -added a REC seat with a screw in fighting butt fitting- made a 6" "spey " lower grip and a 2 " standard extension- gives a choice between a spey rod and a standard rod.

I fish mine with a Cortland 444SL DT. Spey casts like a dream with big nymphs and small streamers/C,dads etc for Smallies/Walleye/Whitefish/Goldeye etc etc etc out to 70-80'

cost- Rod Ebay -$80.00US
cork/seat etc- $50.00 US

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Will,

An interesting e mail this morning. Will leave the who from out of this, but the suggestion is going to be made to Sage, who now owns Reddington Rods, they actually produce 'our rod' as part of their line up.

Will be interesting to follow.
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      #226570 - 01/03/06 04:56 PM

Whats a "Goldeye" ?

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Whats a "Goldeye" ?

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Re: Reddington 'make over.' new [Re: fredaevans]
      #226687 - 01/04/06 08:38 AM

Fred - that is interesting news:)) It,s a nice little rod when converted, Keep me posted:)

BG- Goldeye- http://www.ducks.ca/ohmic/english/reeder/rdr121/mconserv.html

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Re: Reddington 'make over.' new [Re: prairiespey]
      #226707 - 01/04/06 10:27 AM

Gotta, been too long. I remember them being called (wrongly) goldeneye. As a basic food sourse for large fish they'd be somewhat akin to the GL's Alwigs (sp?) or 'shiners/etc' for Bass in a fresh water lake.

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      #226841 - 01/05/06 11:14 AM

Aaah the herring family I see, up to 3 lbs some nice sport on a light spey, now I see.

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      #227606 - 01/10/06 03:37 PM

they are like alewives

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      #227731 - 01/11/06 07:51 AM

SV, that 'anology' would be a better fit for me to that a member of the herring family. Actually, the only member of the herring group that comes into fresh water (spawning run) is the American Shad.

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      #228228 - 01/14/06 06:26 AM

fred;

follow the link, a little info on alewives.

http://fish.dnr.cornell.edu/nyfish/Clupeidae/alewife.html

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