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I'm one now using all seasons for salmon and steelhead fly fishing in the GLs.
Spey fly fishing is just catching on out here. In the last 15 months of fly fishing out here I have not seen another spey fisherman yet on the rivers I fish. I am excluding a spey clave I went to in Michigan in April where all 20-30 of the GLs fly fishers showed. Well there must be more than that but there are not many out here yet.
People ask me what is the long rod you have ?
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I'm one. In process of having to sell mine off thanks to my injury. But, will rebuild my fleet after I'm back to work. But, great rods to use on some of the brushy OP streams here.
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I use a 14' 6" 10/11 wt built by Marty, love that stick. still learning, but it's a hell of a lot easier to spey cast than try and roll cast the distances sometimes needed here, especially since I'm a bankie and there's a heck of a lot of brush here on the OP as Jerry mentioned the heavy line also helps me lob these big ol' weighted bunny leeches I like to use without a huge amount of effort. for those who are thinking of getting one, but are weary of all the weight, don't worry about it. They are very efficient rods, and I actually find that my arms are much less tired after a day of spey rodding than using a one handed rod. you basically let the rod do all the work for you
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I just do a modified spey cast from my one hander, 9'6" is all i need to get it there for most of the rivers i fish...
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Casting is one thing, Mending is another.
I can cast no problem using a modified spey line and cast. Mending on the other hand is where the BIG advantage is!! With the Long rod you have more control of your line and are able to slow down the presentation of your fly by lowering the fly down into water easier, and by being able to mend out line after the first cast.
I have always been a one handed guy, I'm looking serious into a two handed rod just for the mending and slower presentation purposes.
Talked to a guy who warks at Lamiglass. They are coming out with a new rod that will be a great spey rod and pretty cheap. If not, I'm looking into a scott or St. Croix. Don't know yet.
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With little exception I'm a 2-hander almost exclusely. Last count was 11 spey rods of different lengths/line wts. Much of the top 60 miles of the Rogue River (also the Chetco on the sw Oregon coast) lends it's self very well to this type of equipment.
Also, when the spring kings are running (now, and at 25,000 fish through the counter) you can fish these rods along with the folks flipping 1-2 oz. of lead off of drift gear. Try that with a one hander and you'll raise more than 'eye brows' from the other fishermen.
As noted above line control at long distances is one of the major features of spey rods. With a 15''stick' you can mend line out as far as most folks can cast a one hander.
I had the opportunity to cast the Lamiglas rod TFG mentions above at the Sandy River Spey 'Clave and it was a true delight. Suspect strongly that it will become #12 when they become available.
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I have the St Croix 13 footer 7/8 weight which is a great all around spey rod for the GLs for salmon and steelhead.
Yes you can cast farther with the spey rod but my rivers are not that wide for the most part. Therefore the really big advantage is the enhanced mending ability of the longer spey rod. I fish with a sink tip most of the time and nymphs or bunny type leeches which are weighted. Its amazing how much deeper you can get them into the drifts without using split shot.
Its the way to go, I have only been using it for 16 months now but I am totally sold on it.
I guess I must be when I did try and use one of my beloved single handers last month I could not stopping grabbing it with two hands and single hand casting felt strange.
Highly recommend it.
Also after you get use to it as some one else said in this thread you are not as tired at the end of the day from all of that false casting with a single hander.
Hal
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So, they were good huh? I know they had some at the Seattle Sportsman show and I know quite a few of the guys liked them, and seemed to cast nicely as well. May have to look into them. Just about to sell off my LAST spey rod , in fact, last two fly rods total. Only will have one 8wt left. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH. This SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
Sorry to rant. Killing me selling off all my gear. Now, I may even look into selling off my vintage glass driftrods and my old ABU's. Sacriledge I tell you.
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Black_Ghost
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Will have to check out the Lamiglass ?
The magic word was mentioned "CHEAP"
Fred knows all about this I call it "economic prudence"
Why spend 500-700 for spey rod when you can get one for under 400 and maybe under 300.
Although I have to say those Sages are really nice !! and so are their price tags at 600-700.
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Well the spey rod that Lamiglas is coming out with is suppose to be between 150-200 bucks. My jaw dropped, especially after he told me it received good reviews from some of the "pros"
Not sure when it will hit the market though.
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Wow thats really cheap, the St Croixs start at $ 240 and are a good rod for the money. Thanks for the heads up on the Lamiglas
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Well, I saw them, they are actually nice looking as well. Didn't actually hold one, but saw one. Booth I was working at was at the end of the casting pool. They were EASILY nailing casts where the flies were falling into our booth. Pretty good for guys who were beginners being shown how to handle the rod. I'll keep my eyes open, since I'm selling off my last spey rod . Will be in market for some REALLY fast, especially for my winterrun fishing.
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Jerry, please do keep us posted on this rods availability. The one (and I'm assuming here that it was the new Lamiglas spey)I used at the Sandy 'Clave was a deep cherry red colour.
Ring a bell? And what is this 'selling off your rods'nonsence????? Are you suggesting your reverting 'back to the darkside' and shudddddddder .... "bait gear?" Say isn't so!
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No Fred. Wish that was the case. But am selling off my gear rods as well. I fell into a loophole on L&I. I had to fight my private L&I company in court for 3 years to get them to pay for my therapy. Finally got it approved. Guess what? They only have to pay me my salary at time of accident, though THEY were the one's who delayed the healing. My private medical insurance wouldn't pay for therapy since it was an L&I accident. So I was stuck working with my back/shoulder messed up making it worse. Now, off work and being healed. BUT, losing a bit over $800 a month off my checks. With a car repair that needed to be done, and life in general all my reserves have went buy buy in the last 5 months I've been off (shorted $4,000 so far that I'd normally have in bank). Selling off the rods I know I can get decent $$$ for. Sucks, but has to be done.
So no, not reverting back. Down to one fly rod now (had 15 or so) and down to a couple drift rods and then my old glass rods. Don't want to get into those if I don't have to. But, we'll see. 
Hmmmmm, can't remember color. Could've swore it was a deep blue spey rod (not the low end rod blue, but a deeper vivid blue). But may have been red. I saw so many rods come out. But I heard about them showing off the new lami spey, and watched them cast like a rocket.
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Well I count 5 spey rod users if we only count Fred as one but perhaps I should rethink that assumption. He can qualify as 2-3 at least I think.
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2-3, more like 6-7.
Actually, I'm gonna really look into the Lami speys. I just checked one out, it's a deep blue blank. They actually have really changed the blank design and butt design. Have a nice rich look and feel. Not the first G1000 style blanks. Plus, are very competitively priced (at least the one's they have now, not the one's Fred looked at). They run about half the prices of the Sages, T&T, Winston's, etc. So may go that direction. Not too sure yet though. But it's a start.
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Does Fred have one yet ? He is my designated prototype tester if he says to buy it I will seriously consider it since this man knows his spey rods.
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Count me in
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Well, they'll let just about anybody join this club...
Add one more to the spey inflicted hereabouts.
mmm
Ooh, all these buttons and thingys. Kinda intimidating.
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Hey MMM, welcome aboard. Glad to see you made it.
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Yeah, add one more. Although I use a standard fly rod for the "classic" streams (and the little fishies that live there), I did pick up a short (11' 3" Cabela's) primarily for the great mending capability. The Lake O. Tribs really aren't that big where you REALLY need to "boom 'em way out there". The only water big enough for a long spey rod would be the Genesee and the Salmon R., but since both of 'em are mobbed, I normally fish the smaller, lesser known streams - and still catch my share.
Incidentally, I've been real happy with the outfit for my use (Cabela's rod + Redington RS2 + DT Line). Yeah, the rod could use better cosmetics, but if it bothers me, I'll just redo the cosmetics. Hell, I used to build bamboo rods when I was a kid. Not a big deal. But the action is good, handles fish well, and I have even been known to overhead single-hand cast with it under the right conditions. And, it mends line SUPERBLY - that's what I really got it for, anyway! Let's face it - I am just a beginner with it.
So, I don't know if this qualifies me to be in such prestigous company or not, but I know it qualifies to be "economically prudent", as Hal calls it. (Most folks just call it "cheap".) 
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Bobk if you see any "economically prudent" good buys on a large arbor spey reel give me a heads up. I am looking for another one.
Spey is the way.
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Hey, Hal - your motto is similar to mine:
"FISHING WITH DILIGENCE, SKILL AND INTEGRITY WILL NEVER REPLACE DUMB LUCK!"
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First off, Bob, you qualify. I had a 12' Spey, so you're pretty darned close. LOL.
Hmmmmm, let me look Hal. I could've sworn I saw like a Tioga LA reel that could be used for speys (like a 12wt reel). Let me see if I can find the info.
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Thanks !
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Well, I am a big fan of the Tioga line and now own four (4). I have a 12, regular spool, for the 8/9 XLT with an adequate length of 20# backing (dealer set it up so I don't really know how much length) and a 12 LA for the 8/9/10 Windcutter w/150 yds. plus of 20# backing.
I also own several 8 LA and my son a 4 Reg. for his trout rod. Tioga's are, in my opinion, the best buy in disc drag reels.
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Tioga's I have heard good things about them but never seen one. Local fly shops do not carry them here.
BG
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