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I saw a couple of the Chicago fly show this weekend and was not impressed with them nor their $ 400 price tag. The St Croix 9/10 weight for $ 270 looked and felt like a better rod and of course no contest on price.
Any one got a Lamiglas Spey ?
Unfortunately Sage did not bring any spey rods so I could not hold and caress Ms. 5120-4 again !
 
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Don't knock it until you have casted one. How many pieces was the one at the show???
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Quality was not as good as the St. Croix and CND, did not have to even cast it. My years of experience just holding a rod enables to tell if it will be right for me. LOL
Just like the first time I held the Sage 5120 it was love and I was right after casting it several months later.
It was a 4 piece all of their spey rods are 4 piece I have the catalog here in front of me.
No fly shop in Chicago carrys the Lamiglas line so I would have to order it from some internet site.
I can assure you I am not going on a Lamiglas Spey Rod Blind Date for $ 420 which is the list price of the 8/9 weight 13 ' 6" rod I would be interested in.
Case closed on Lamiglas, now onto other candidates to add to the CND and St Croix candidates.
 
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Hmmmm Hal. The new one's aren't in the catalogs yet. At least they weren't. Just their older models. Not the new one's Fred was talking about. From what I heard, they were pretty damned nice rods. So may have been the older models you had in your hands.
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I LOVE Hal's "years of experience" BS. He also forgot to mention that he is "economically prudent" (you and I would call it "cheap"). I hate to disagree with his "expertise", but you can't tell very much by just holding a rod, especially if it doesn't have your favorite (or a proper weighted) reel on it for balance. And you can tell NOTHING about the action without the right line on it and casting it - and preferably on a river.
Yeah, I know, he is also quoting "experts" and now looking at the color of hooks. Hmmm - if that is true, then why is the "Almost" a very good pattern. How come a fly which only a black size 18 scud hook with a brass bead head, and fine gold ribbing AND NOTHING ELSE - not even thread - an excellent midge responsible for more large trout than any fly I have ever tried? Yeah, it's a "midge nymph", but a darned good one, and it WORKS!
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Aren't the new ones 6 pieces. I thought that they were. Well I'm going to go to Aarons tomorrow after fishing the Snoqualmie in the AM and I will check them out again. I think that Hal likes to see his words in print,just to see how much he can put out there. Oh and they cast like no others. Hal is just used to the log of a St Croix and he can't adjust to anything lighter. What he needs to do is broaden his sights as to what is out there and is lighter. There are the Heartage rods,lighter than a St Croix, and cheaper and cast pretty nice. I could go on but he's dead set on using that log so I'll let him be.
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It did not have the visual cosmetics of a $ 400+ rod regardless of how it may have casted. No shops hear carry them so I think they are out for me.
The search continues.
Bobk I bet you have never used black hooks for trout sam as me. I have only used black hooks since I have been steelhead and salmon fly fishing (23 years) but maybe I should not be. No one has said its BS yet and my summary of the A Jackson article has been linked to several other sites. Not by me either.
Fish do see colors.
BTW, I had a killer size 18 or 20 black wet fly I used on the Beaverkill found it in a fly wallett floating down the river in the late 60s while home on leave from the USAF. It was a killer wet fly pattern I used them all and have never seen this fly in any book. I have a mental image and need to try and reproduce to some day. Must of been the fly fishers whose wallett I found personal tie. I still have the fly wallett with some of those small trout nymphs and wet flys but not the black one.
Gotta go
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I'm not dead set still searching.
The Lamiglas catalog the sales people gave me at the show list only 4 piece rods.
Wish St Croix had a 8/9 weight they only have a 9/10 weight up from the 7/8 weight I have now. I just think the 9/10 is too heavy for what I need out here.
Will talk to my local spey St Croix vendor sales person again on thursday night who is giving a talke on Irish salmon spey fishing he does every year. He is St Croix biased though and so is my fly shop owner.
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Not the new one's Fred was talking about. From what I heard, they were pretty damned nice rods.
Several of the new Lammi's are 6 section rods; they were one of the first to make 4+ section rods. Bob Meiser's about to do a 5 section rod. As for Lami's 'quality,' you get what you pay for ... even with their rods. The one's I got to use at the 2003 Sandy River 'Clave were 'proto-types' but the actual rod action (line on) was the cat's meow. Actually, zero memory on the 'fit and finish.'
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