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"Xmas vs. Christmas vs. Christ's Mass (as I spell the words) new
      #136972 - 09/23/04 05:41 PM

I've always been offended by the term 'Xmas,' only to find that it's not only proper, but centuries old. A 'cut/paste' of a section of a thread from a UK board.

"From X, the Greek letter chi, first letter of Greek Khrstos, Christ. See Christ.]
Usage Note: Xmas has been used for hundreds of years in religious writing, where the X represents a Greek chi, the first letter of, “Christ.” In this use it is parallel to other forms like Xtian, “Christian.” But people unaware of the Greek origin of this X often mistakenly interpret Xmas as an informal shortening pronounced (ksms). Many therefore frown upon the term Xmas because it seems to them a commercial convenience that omits Christ from Christmas."

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Re: "Xmas vs. Christmas vs. Christ's Mass (as I spell the words) new [Re: fredaevans]
      #136978 - 09/23/04 06:17 PM

Oh that should really frost those who think they're wishing you a Merry (non Christ associated) holiday...

Think I'll tie up some special XMas and CHRISTMas flies for the Vedder for the annual tradition of fishing w/ Dad on Christmas and Boxing Day. I can't wait til it's a 3 generation thing.

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Re: "Xmas vs. Christmas vs. Christ's Mass (as I spell the words) new [Re: workin4fishin]
      #137022 - 09/24/04 01:23 AM

Yup, I call it Xmas. Actually, thanks to my job, I'm one of the biggest Grinches out there. Fun when I'm delivering the packages to bright eyed kids. But the time away from the family kills me.

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Re: "Xmas vs. Christmas vs. Christ's Mass (as I spell the words) new [Re: Steelheader69]
      #137028 - 09/24/04 04:15 AM

Fred, I agree with your "original take" on the subject. In this day of shortening everything into acronyms, I think Christmas, or "Christ's Mass" is just a little more appropriate and reverent.

Today, people just use the "short form" out of habit.

Just my 2 cents.

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Re: "Xmas vs. Christmas vs. Christ's Mass (as I spell the words) new [Re: BobK]
      #137197 - 09/25/04 09:45 AM

No matter how you spell that word/day I still hate it. Of all the holidays in a year that is the one I hate the most.My reason,very long story. And greedy people.nuf said.

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Re: "Xmas vs. Christmas vs. Christ's Mass (as I spell the words) new [Re: oldman]
      #137251 - 09/25/04 04:18 PM

Whats wrong with XMAS I usually am able to get one nice new fly fishing gift upon it. LOL

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Re: "Xmas vs. Christmas vs. Christ's Mass (as I spell the words) new [Re: oldman]
      #137465 - 09/26/04 09:02 PM

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oldman said:
No matter how you spell that word/day I still hate it. Of all the holidays in a year that is the one I hate the most.My reason,very long story. And greedy people.nuf said.

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Jim, all things aside, I have to agree with you. This is why I seperate Christmas/Xmas from Christ's Mass. We're having a birthday party, to celibrate a person, not an exchange of gifts with 'whom-ever.'

Sounds a bit over the top .. but why do 'non-Christians' celibrate the birthday of someone they (otherwhise?) couldn't give a hoot in hell less about?

End of "holiday rant.''

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Re: "Xmas vs. Christmas vs. Christ's Mass (as I spell the words) new [Re: fredaevans]
      #137546 - 09/27/04 10:49 AM

Well Fred,I am celebrating somebodys birthday on the 25th of December. But it isn't his. My wifes birthday is that day so she wins out over everthing else hand down.

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Re: "Xmas vs. Christmas vs. Christ's Mass (as I spell the words) [Re: oldman]
      #137565 - 09/27/04 12:07 PM

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Well Fred,I am celebrating somebodys birthday on the 25th of December. But it isn't his. My wifes birthday is that day so she wins out over everthing else hand down.

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With a Birthday like that ... you'd be 'worse than toast' if you ever "forgot."

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