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fredaevans said:
Several manufacturers have spey rods out now in the $200-$250 range that are DARNED good equipment.
I know, but like I said, I can't afford that right now. With paying for gas, new reel/line for my new 6wt, and stuff for the band (I play bass), I can't afford it right now.
But, hopfully soon I will get a call from one of the many places that I have/will put job applications in and I will have the money. My ideas on getting a spey rod might change come fall, hopefully to get one (if not I have many year ahead of me).
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Yea I'll second what Fred E. said.
The world best caster would help out, any time at the Sandy.
Now a meesage for Fred.
Fred you cost me money again!
I just orderd 5/6/7 11'7" Meiser
To sweeeeet of a rod, can't wait to get it.
First Kaufmann's Spey Day's and now Sandy River Spey Clave
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Brian
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fredaevans
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Not to worry Brian, you'll love the rod. Stopped over at Meiz's place late last week for a chat and bowl of soup and he mentioned 'you'd dropped the dime.' (Forgot to add: "getting sucked into spey rods can be a very expensive mistress to properly maintain.")
Got to play with a couple of his new proto-types. One is very good, the other is AMAZING!!! It's one line step up from the 'FES,' but the butt section has Boron in the lay up. CAN NOT wait to 'field test' that rod on the kings!!!!
What tickled me more is Bob's considering calling the blank the 'FESX.' (fred evans special-xtream)
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Fred A. Evans
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LOL Fred. No one more deserving of line of rods. Maybe, instead of a Jungle Cock (or other feather) inlay, why not put a MacMallen label in it instead for you? Maybe Glenlivet.  That way you always have it with you. 
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fredaevans
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LOL Fred. No one more deserving of line of rods. Maybe, instead of a Jungle Cock (or other feather) inlay, why not put a MacMallen label in it instead for you? Maybe Glenlivet. That way you always have it with you.
I am liking this idea A LOT! Think I'll check with the Meiz' and see if it's 'do-able.' Label size would be critical but I could just keep emptying bottles until I found one with an appropriate size.
War can be hell! 
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I think I still have the boxes that Malcolm sent me. They would be about the right size. If you want the Macmallen, can send that do you. It would be the perfect size for the butt section of a spey rod. Just cut and apply. In fact. You can have him seal up the butt section. Right at the ferrule so it's air/water tight. Then in the butt section, have him add a watertight screwcap. Just add the macmallen into the butt section. Then after a long day fishing, simply unscrew the butt cap, and have a drink of scotch.
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fredaevans
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Sent "The Meiz" a link to this thread. A whole new idea? He gets free 'samples' of Dr. Malcolm's "mouth wash???"
Back to 'war is hell?'
:>)
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Ok Fred. But in case he needs a box, I have one at your disposal. Just let me know, you're more then welcome to it.
Yeah, that's some of the BEST mouthwash I've ever had. 
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OH FRED
I'm catching up with you (spey rods)
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Brian
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OH FRED
I'm catching up with you (spey rods)
Quite possible ... especially with retirement looking me in the eye come this Friday. Did try a new Meiser rod that's one up from the 'FES' .. BONKERS!! One set of line numbers up and a bloody cannon!!
Called Bob this morning to see if he had 'one in stock.' As all his rods are made to order .... crap .... the one I tried was 'someone elses' rod and in the process of being shipped out today ... double crap.
This new one will test my wife's sense of humor. Ah well, do have the new RV to sleep in if push came to shove (save for her 'shoving me out a 4 story window!' 
Let the Games Begin!!
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FAE - it's hopeless, with the ladies even when you
win; you still lose! Lord help me, there is 3 in my
family! 
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Hey Fred
Was it Calymore (tip loads at around 650, and fully butt loads at around 1100) can't wait to try that one!
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Brian
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Fred - I think you are "spreading it" a little bit. Why, that sweet, lovely spouse of yours wouldn't harm a flea! (Now, an errant husband might be another story!)
Seriously, though, Fred... didn't you know enough to suggest a new camera, or that she needs a new outfit or two??
BobK
(PS - I take delivery of my new computer tower today, so I may be having "downtime" for a day or two.)
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2 handers eh?
a bakers dozen resides in my closet, not to mention my collection of singles handers. still have my first single hander from 1966, last single hander I got was one I won at a TU auction. she is sweet
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great lakes chrome intercepter
gotta be a 2 hander
i am lost in spey abyss, so he says
blah blah blah,
BG's buddy, BG is my personal rod handler
i let hal carry my long rod while on the stream
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Okay how many spey fly fishers do we have here now and those planning to go spey ?
Got to be more than a year ago.
BG
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Fred
Looks like I have to go to work, Bob just sent me a list of some new rods to play with. So I better go to the GR for a month and play with them.
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Brian
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My first spey rod should be arriving any day. Looking forward to learning a new way to catch the fish that haunts my dreams!
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Numpqua76
Welcome and I am sure you will enjoy the new challenges presented by the spey rod and its casting/mending ability. There are some very knowledgeable people posting on this board so look through the threads and links from this board.
BG
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just picked up a pre release loomis scan rod, what a cannon, was underhanding and shooting 100' in my yard before failing light brought me in. can't wait to get her into fish..
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great lakes chrome intercepter
gotta be a 2 hander
i am lost in spey abyss, so he says
blah blah blah,
BG's buddy, BG is my personal rod handler
i let hal carry my long rod while on the stream
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Fred
Looks like I have to go to work, Bob just sent me a list of some new rods to play with. So I better go to the GR for a month and play with them.
WAR IS HELL!! Darn, and double darn. :>)
Picked up Bob's 16' six section 7-8-9 for field testing (first proto which has already been 'tweeked') and it's a frigging CANNON. Another great spey caster (I'm not in that league by any stretch) referred to it as the 'FES Mach II) and after a day/morning of using the rod that was an understatement.
This rod, lined with a 8/9 SA XLT will empty the reel even with two 'feathered bricks' for flys. Mind blowing long rod!!!
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Hal, are you now posting under two (orig and new) names???
Sigh .. we love you as you are ... twisted or not.
:>)
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noot sure who hal is, does he know anything about two handed casting????
did derek, simon, or mike m teach him?
if so i would like to see him handle the long rod....
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great lakes chrome intercepter
gotta be a 2 hander
i am lost in spey abyss, so he says
blah blah blah,
BG's buddy, BG is my personal rod handler
i let hal carry my long rod while on the stream
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I was thinking the same thing.
Hmmmm... too fast a response for innocence, Fred. Let's see - style looks and sounds the similar, they both misspell simple words, and a DETERMINED guy could use a "work" and a "home" address....
Well, it LOOKS like a duck, and QUACKS like a duck.......
BobK 
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LOL. They are two different guys. LOL. Thought the same thing myself awhile back. But it's not.
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Yeah Fred and Bobk I have time to actually fool around with multiple IDs just to confuse you fellows. LOL
Fred the check the Internet site ID you can see on Admin on each post and you can see it is not me. I do have two I post on but neither are the one above. Sorry Bobk you cannot see it without Admin viewing privileges.
BG
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I like to fish with a double hander although I never rule out spey casting with a single hander. It is a great and versatile set of casts. As a rule I tend to only use a double hander when salmon fishing although it is starting to become more popular in the UK for a variety of fishing. Mainly including sea trout (limey steelheads) and when fishing in the sea.
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UK Bass I wondered about that, don't hear much about that over here but I surfed to some sites last winter and was surprized to see them over there.
BG
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BG,
The European Sea Bass (Dicentrarchus labrax) does not get a chance to grow to the size of their cousins in the US. Stripers I have caught in Cape Cod are much bigger thanks to some good fishery policies which States over their have. We are slowly getting there, although it will take a while, as we are dealing with a number of European countries with short sighted fisheries policies. In the UK we have recently introduced a ban on pair trawling within our coastal waters, although moves to get this made European law by the British Government were blocked by the French and the Spanish Governments who are the main culprits for decimating fish stocks – protectionism in its very worst form. You may guess it is something I am quite passionate about.
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Sigh...... have to hand back a 'proto' (first generation/second is already out there for field testing) 16' (to use Russ' comment) the FES Mack II. I'd have called it the FES on steroids.
This is not a rod for 'short heads,' it demands a long taper line like the SA XLT (I used a 7/8 and 8/9 on the rod as well as the Airflo long belly Delta)or Grand Spey.
With the 8/9 line on this rod litterly ripped two feathered bricks out of the water. How far will it cast? The two bricks (a few casts later) ended up decorating a tree on the far side of the river.
This rod will be over kill for low water work, but for larger water/winter steelheading it could turn into 'the cats meow!'
Darn! Forgot to add: JME, welcome to our side of the Pond!!
Fred
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Edited by fredaevans (10/13/04 12:33 PM)
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