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Steelhead on a dry fly for most steelheaders is a fantasy that will not be realized. I am convinced without 100s of hours on prime water and conditions.
I think I can close this thread now.
Heck Mr. Evans has been out in PNW all his life and does not even seem to bother with it, now that tells me something.
BG
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LOL Hal. It's not the most effective way to fish them, why it's not as popular. But can and is done (I've done it, even on the OlyPen rivers). Just that most don't want to spend THAT much time on that method.
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Think the real trick is to be aware of the opportunity
when it presents itself and adapt accordingly. Very few
real opportunities this year - but when they where there,
got em!
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Well all is not lost I can use the Bombers and Gurglers on the bass. (Small mouths and large mouths). Also night river fishing for big trout, waking flys etc. I'm giving up on steelhead, why torture myself. SH86 can take me to his dry fly runs when I get out there. I will expect success also and will certainly pay the going price for it ! LOL
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Edited by Black_Ghost (10/19/04 02:21 PM)
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Sissy!!!
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Boy!! thanks guys. Being a fairly new undertaking for me what I gather from all the posts here is that your best chance in getting into steelhead is to fish toward the bottom.
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You got it SB, low and slow.
LOL
Get lots of sink tips and learn how to cast them.
BG
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The 2004 dry fly steelhead log is now closed. I will be sure to omit reading these parts of my steelhead fly fishing books this winter and all future articles on dry fly steelhead for now I know the truth.
Your chances are slim and none of catching one on a dry fly and slim just left town.
Another thing to cross off my life time steelheader to do list along with the 20 lber.
I feel better now less pressure on me. LOL
To think all of these 25 years I thought there was a possibility of these things.
Go deep and slow or don't swing at all !
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BG
I was gone fishing in October, I was using drys just about all the time. Nothing better than Bill Mc. October Caddis
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I dunno, BG. Of the three steelhead I landed in the last month, two were on dries, Large October Caddis skated.
That's not my normal fisihing method for steel, but I was practicing my spey casting and that was the only fly I had with me. I guess ya use what ya got at the time.
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BG wants a well-defined sure thing before he even TRIES it!! One of the best-kept "secrets" of GL fishing is that there is a certain time of year when it is the "best" or "second-best" method (depending on time-of-day). And apparently he doesn't know about it!! (And I'm not talking about this subject any more - I've said too much already!!!)
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Well there is at least a few trying it and successful and Bobk I have never seen anyone out here use drys specifically for steelhead except me and non successfully at that.
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Some of us just know when to shut up about a good thing!!
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"Heck Mr. Evans has been out in PNW all his life and does not even seem to bother with it, now that tells me something."
Well, I'd have to say that Hal's 95% correct .. if not 98. But I think that's a function of how fish react in a given river. The Rogue fish are normally bottom huggers so other than in late summer/low water/very late in the day .. not much will come of it.
Not move over/up actually to the north Umpqua .. another matter for summer runs. Same could be said for winter fishing on the Russian River in Northern California. These fish tend to hold in the water coloum and will move to a skated fly far faster.
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I'll have to agree with Fred. Dry fly varies from river to river but usually you can raise fish on most summer run rivers when the water temp is between 50 and 60. I have caught them on the Bulkley in 44 degree water and on the Deschutes in 64. Wild fish rise much better than hatchery fish. For some unknown reason fish will turn on and turn off the dry fly. Here is an example. Dean River. August 31 and Sept 1, 2002. Water 52 AM and 54PM. Clear and sunny both days with no perceptible change in the weather or water. August 31 between the two of us we rose 32, hooked 26 and landed 16. On September 1 we fished all morning dry and were 0 for 1. Went wet and started picking up fish. At the end of the day we had hooked 15 and landed 14 and were 2/3 on drys. If we had fished wet we would have had comparable numbers to the previous day but you never know. One day every fish is looking up, the next nada. Based upon my observations on a small summer run river I have fished for 30 years and from the number of fish guys pick up behind me I would guess that the numbers are something like this: 10% of the fish will take a dry, 25% will take a fly on the swing and 50-75% will take a properly presented nymph (something that I don't do). The higher up in the water column I fish the more wild fish dominate. On the other hand, when I have nymphers fishing behind me and I am fishing greased line, most all of their fish are hatchery, which leads me to believe that I have moved most of the wild fish in front of them.
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Great observations Mark.
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Dry fly thing is PNW, out here there bottom huggers, 90% of the year they are in the rivers the water temps are below 50 degrees, most of the time in the 30s. There bottom huggers plus we do not have as many wild fish as out there.
Guess I will have to wait for the PNW summer/fall trips.
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