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OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT...
      #167731 - 02/05/05 10:49 AM

You people should check this guys page out- he catches monsters and has tons of photos of unbelievable fish. Click on all his links, you won't be sorry!
http://www.solarexpert.com/fishing/catch-n-release2.html

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: DownTownBrowns]
      #167738 - 02/05/05 11:51 AM

I suspect that fella just might have a clue! Luck mighta caught 1 or 2 of those, but he's pretty much gotta know what he's doing to have caught them all.

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: elwoodp]
      #167748 - 02/05/05 12:50 PM

Obviously has the cash to travel. Some of those pics are from upstate New York. One from Eastern Idaho. I'm not sure, but some looked like Pennsylvania pictures I saw in a magazine.

The dude's from SoCal...

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: Mojo]
      #167765 - 02/05/05 02:15 PM

Yeh, the guy's got it going on as far as I'm concerned. 1. He knows how to catch fish, and 2. He can afford to spend time doing it.

Solar panel installation, hmmmm.....probably not in Idaho!

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: DownTownBrowns]
      #167766 - 02/05/05 02:19 PM

Hey MR. Brown Trout!

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: DownTownBrowns]
      #167773 - 02/05/05 03:22 PM

Hey DTB

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: Mr_BrownTrout]
      #167777 - 02/05/05 03:40 PM

actually I've seen that guys fish pictures in some guides website in Argentina and the browns there are huge and easy to catch.

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: thesteelheadkid]
      #167848 - 02/05/05 11:25 PM

Mr BrownTrout,
In response to your question about the lures I use on the Boise for big browns in the winter, I would be remiss if I didn’t take this opportunity to share my approach with anyone who is interested….
If you want to catch browns on the Boise in winter with hardware, get yourself some ¼ oz. or larger chartreuse, yellow or bright green Roostertails with brass blades, head down to the very end of ParkCenter blvd, where you can park on the gravel and walk over to the greenbelt, find a nice looking spot and start chucking wherever looks deep. Work your way up or downriver. I prefer downriver from that point. The fish picture I posted earlier came from a spot about 200 yards down from here. I’ve had good luck from sunup to noon. Then again right at dusk.
I use a spinner I build myself. It's based on a swing blade spinner like a Worden's Roostertail. I started building my own because to get into the right spots (deep and in the rocks) you wind up losing a lot of lures. (Hence my subtitle “Chumming with Lures). I couldn't afford to lose a half dozen Roostertails or more every time out, so I got myself a Tackletool from Fishermans Shack, found a source for quality swing blades (with the cool scale pattern stamp like the roostertail blades) which is a place called Jann's Netcraft. I mostly use brass #5 swing blades, but have been experimenting with the nickel.
I build what I think is a better spinner than the Roostertail for a number of reasons. First of all, the clevis Worden's uses are a folded type clevis, and I believe the stirrup clevis reduces friction on the spinner shaft, which enables the blade to spin more freely. Anyone who has spent much time tossing Roostertails will find that by the nature of the design, they can be a bitch to start and keep spinning, and the stirrup clevis makes a big difference. Another problem with these types of spinners is the brass blades are thin enough that they start bending around the body after being cast and flung around for awhile, and this severely inhibits the blade from initializing a good spin. I keep needle nose pliers in my pocket and when the blade starts to “curve”, I give it a little sideways pinch to flatten it out again, and quite often bend the very tip of the blade out. (See picture) This really helps get it spinning quickly. I like to use the sharpest hooks I can find because I'm a staunch believer in the hook being the most important factor in the strike to net ratio, and again, the hooks on most store bought lures leave something to be desired. The spinners pictured here have treble hooks, I now use single siwash hooks for all of the spinners I make. And I pinch the barbs.
I make the bodies out of ¼” hollow core pencil lead. I unroll it and cut it into ¾” to 1” pieces, then I give the ends a quick once over with a file to round ‘em off a little.
Sometimes I need to ream the core a bit to get the wire through. I heat each one with a lighter or mini-torch and dip it into a colored powder coat then quickly into the clear top coat with sparkles. You gotta have sparkles! . It’s very important to bake them in the oven for twenty minutes to make the coating indestructible. I didn’t do that at first and the coating flaked off after 10 minutes. The final assembly takes about two minutes apiece, and the final cost per lure (depending upon the hook you use) is about $0.50.
Chartreuse and bright green. I actually caught three browns in a row last winter using an orange-red body, and have since occasionally gone back to that with very limited success. Yellow, bright green, chartreuse; I can’t stress it enough. The limited light in the winter and the visibility of the river (usually one to three feet at best) during November through March dictate that you need to use a color that will get their attention. It’s possible that other colors work better on different days depending on the light, but I could spend years….so I just stick with this color 85-90% of the time in the winter.
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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: DownTownBrowns]
      #167849 - 02/05/05 11:27 PM

steelhaedkid, look closer, the link is to his pictures of his USA caught fish. I know the browns in Argentina and Patagonia are huge- they're sea-runs! The brown trout equivelant of a steelhead.

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: DownTownBrowns]
      #167924 - 02/06/05 01:37 PM

knows what hes doing maybe. but more likely has the money to pay someone that knows what they are doing and travel the world. nice fish though. LIL

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: Lilfisher]
      #167942 - 02/06/05 03:27 PM

yeah I've traveled to that exact spot in Chile and caught browns that big in the same place where that guy caught his.

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: thesteelheadkid]
      #167943 - 02/06/05 03:28 PM

Downtownbrowns thats pretty funny I've found your exact spinners in the Boise R. a few times but you can't have them back.
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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: thesteelheadkid]
      #167949 - 02/06/05 04:11 PM

I've certainly lost a s*$tload. Did you really go to Chile or are you making that up?

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: DownTownBrowns]
      #167951 - 02/06/05 04:20 PM

yeah I went and a couple of those pictures are in Chile, I'm not saying all but some are.

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: thesteelheadkid]
      #168034 - 02/06/05 11:19 PM

When did you go? Did you go with your dad? How many did you catch? Where exactly did you go?

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: DownTownBrowns]
      #168197 - 02/07/05 05:22 PM

If I told it might ruin the whole area if too many people got to know about it so I'll just keep it a secret.

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: thesteelheadkid]
      #168279 - 02/07/05 08:59 PM

Give me a break. I just wanted to see if you were full of s*#t or not.

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: DownTownBrowns]
      #168280 - 02/07/05 09:00 PM

I suppose you took pictures?

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: DownTownBrowns]
      #168281 - 02/07/05 09:01 PM

I'm calling your bluff. Show mw some pics.

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      #168285 - 02/07/05 09:25 PM

didn't have a digital at the time and we don't have a scanner.

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: DownTownBrowns]
      #168707 - 02/09/05 02:53 PM

Some of those photos are from chile.
If you explore the website you will find:
http://www.solarexpert.com/fishing/Chile-2002.html

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      #168718 - 02/09/05 03:50 PM

Did you see the devil-beast up on the bank in the third or fourth picture down? Scaaarrriiiiieeeee

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: DownTownBrowns]
      #168734 - 02/09/05 04:47 PM

yeah that river is chok full of monster browns it was awesome

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      #168981 - 02/10/05 06:30 PM

I did notice that most of his big fish were taken during the spawn. I tend to think that people should leave them alone during spawning time.

I fish some classic brown water (often) and lay off the fish during the fall. I've seen many dead ones laying on the bottom because people spent too much time fighting them when they were tired from spawning. You catch the pre-spawn fish, you are reducing their chances of surviving spawning season. You catch the post spawn fish, you can kill them easily from exhaustion. You fish for and catch spawners, you are a pathetic loser that needs the gratification of showing off a big fish more than ensuring that fish's survival.

I'm sorry, but catch that same fish in August, when it's actively feeding on size 18 BWO's, you have accomplished something. Scare it into striking a big streamer in November, and you may just kill it.

I know you guys fish the winter, and catch some toads. I'm not slamming you. I just looked at all those pics, and it kinda makes me sick.

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: Mojo]
      #169013 - 02/10/05 08:16 PM

I agree with you for the most part. There are exceptions to everything, though. There have been a few times when I specifically targeted spawning fish and I will tell you why. It wasn't because I'm a pathetic loser, or because I need some gratification I'm not getting at home. I'm an artist. I do highly detailed colored pencil renderings of salmonids. These are not crayon drawings, these are in fact award winning life size works that even at close range have been mistaken for photos. I often target a specific species for reference photos and that includes (though fairly rarely) fish in full spawn dress. I am a responsible angler and when I fish for these fish they are handled quickly and gently released.

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      #169022 - 02/10/05 09:08 PM

yeah there is a difference between fishing for spawners in the fall and just fishing in the fall in general. Not all brown trout spawn at the same time in the fall and I don't target the spawners either. I see people on the Owyhee in the fall ripping buggers and what have you through the spawners, I don't consider this fishing and thats why I stay away from there in the fall. There has been many a day in the summer when I have caught double digits of browns on the owyhee on small dries when even some of the best guys out there couldn't get a fish. I speak for myself but if you look in the areas where downtown brown fishes, he fishes the deep holes not the riffles where last time I checked fish spawn.

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: thesteelheadkid]
      #169025 - 02/10/05 09:20 PM

Read my post. I said I was talking about the guy from SoCal.

I realize there are cases (like Downtownbrown's) where you need reference photo's. No biggie if you catch a fish or two for pics. I can live with that.

What I'm talking about are the folks that are targeting spawners and vulnerable pre / post spawn fish. I too fish the Owyhee. I fish it in October and November. During those months I target bows, and smaller fish that are no where near spawning water. I also confront the snaggers and pathetic fools that are trying to disturb those fish that are attempting to provide me with fishing opportunities 5 years down the road.

Don't stress out over what I wrote. I just think the SoCal dude is a little pompous. I gave him his props for catching his pigs. I'll leave it at that.

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Re: OH MY GOSH CHECK THIS OUT... new [Re: Mojo]
      #169026 - 02/10/05 09:22 PM

sorry mojo didn't want to start any trouble I thought you were talking about fishing loggers creek and the boise river. Yeah that guy from Socal may think he's Mr.Bigfish but anyone can catch the spawners, the real talented guy catch those big fellas when the spawn is no where near.

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