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Any sightings yet? its been fairly warm and this last rain?????
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I'm going down and check the cottonwood stand tomorrow.
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Do they ever grow anyplace besides cottonwoods? Like alder? I keep walking and looking, but I'm not finding any around here.
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The best place as I understand it is any area affected by wildfire in the past year. We're looking at a potential bumper crop this year as a result of last year's fire season. Typically, the first year after a wildfire will see the best fruiting of morels in the area. Subsequent years false morels will be more predominant than true morels in the same areas.
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News article from today's paper. http://www.adn.com/money/story/6318512p-6195221c.html
I also just finished producing a workshop handout on picking and processing morels for the "task force" discussed in that article. I can provide the pdf if anyone would like. PM or email me for a copy.
Mushroom boom expected in late spring
Alaska officials ready for upswing of an expensive fungus
By DAN JOLING The Associated Press
Published: March 28th, 2005 Last Modified: March 28th, 2005 at 02:03 AM
Alaska has a history of booms -- fur, gold, oil. This summer could see another -- a 'shroom boom.
Morel mushrooms, treasured for French cooking, thrive on land a year after it's disturbed by forest fires. Alaska set records in scorched earth last year.
More than 6.5 million acres burned, mostly in Alaska's Interior, the vast middle swath between the Brooks Range in the north and the Alaska Range in the south. With the right moisture and temperatures, Alaska could witness a morel gold rush in late spring.
"That is what we're hoping on," said Jay Moore of the University of Alaska Fairbanks Cooperative Extension Service. "It really depends on environmental factors."
The extension service is putting on workshops in rural communities, showing how to pick, dry and market morels, which when dried can command prices of hundreds of dollars per pound. The service hopes to create a cottage industry in cash-poor places where people last year were smothered with smoke and soot.
It's part of a "mushroom task force" that includes state and federal land managers readying permit systems and informational campaigns. The agencies already are taking calls from commercial harvesters, wondering where to pick.
Where to pick is one of the mysteries of the fabulous fungi, said Trish Wurtz, a U.S. Forest Service research ecologist and affiliate research professor at UAF. Wurtz has studied morels for three years and is fascinated by their enigmatic ways.
"You can go to a study site repeatedly and it's not there," she said of the morel. "And you go the next time, and it's there. And you go back, and it's not there."
Gary Laursen, professor of mycology at UAF's Institute of Arctic Biology, said morel hunters should stay away from boggy areas and search where wildfires were hottest, such as hillsides. Morels appear on soil, not the decaying vegetable matter on the ground in a forest.
"If the fire was hot enough to burn away the duff, then overlay all that soil with ash, then you're going to get a prolific fruiting of what are called the ascomes, the fruit body," Laursen said.
Just identifying morels is confusing. Scientists speculate that five or six species occur in Interior Alaska. They vary in appearance depending on where they grow.
Scientists can merely speculate on their life cycles but know they can show up after fire, timber harvest or insect infestation of trees.
Hundreds of species of fungi are in Alaska's soil, many that have yet to be described, Wurtz said.
The Cooperative Extension Service has conducted workshops in Fort Yukon and Tok and has plans for other Interior towns. "We're trying to target the rural communities that were near large pockets of fire," Moore said.
Morels must be protected from bruising and kept out of hot sun. Excessive moisture from rain or washing hastens decomposition. Morels are collected in baskets or buckets with holes, not plastic bags, to prevent molding.
Moore's workshops encourage people to be good stewards of the land and make sure they obtain permission and permits before picking. With an eye to liability, he will not be giving detailed instruction on what to pick.
"We really are not keying on identifying mushrooms," he said. "That's up to the picker."
Laursen said people are right to show caution. People can get sick from eating false morels. Some get sick from eating the real thing.
"Unfortunately, because of individual body chemistry, not all people can eat this mushroom," he said.
For people who have never eaten morels, he recommends eating only a small portion the first and second days. Sometimes ill effects are cumulative or brought out by drinking wine with a mushroom.
A mistake during morel season might make someone sick but is unlikely to kill, Wurtz said.
Most of Alaska's poisonous mushrooms fruit in the fall, not in late May and June when the morels are out, she said. Americans have a hypersensitivity to mushroom poisoning that's almost unique in the world, she said.
Mycologists have a saying: "Europeans pick them, Americans kick them."
Alaska has the potential for a bumper crop, but dry, hot weather could negate other favorable conditions, Wurtz said.
A bountiful harvest also depends on price. Morels reach the market from China, Russia, India and eastern European nations. Most commercial morel harvesting in North America occurs in Western states and Canada.
Alaska could be attractive to pickers this year. As of early September, only 1.3 million acres in the Lower 48 state had burned, about one-third the average.
But 4.3 million acres burned in the Yukon Territory. Pickers could stop there instead of driving all the way to Alaska, Moore said.
FOR MORE: Read a Forest Service paper on morels at
www.fs.fed.us/pnw/pubs/pnw_rn546.pdf
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I checked my stand of cottonwoods again today, and so far them little guys aren't popping their heads up through the leaves here in Sequim. Should be anyday now, as the cottonwoods are starting to get a tinge of green. These are the early or false morels (Verpa bohemica) that we get around here under the cottonwoods. Like the above posts say, the true morels grow best where there has been a fire. There was a big fire last year over where I elk hunt, so I am going to have to make a treck over there in May to see what is going on.
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Ok fellas, i have found a handful so far this season around the house here, but not very many, was thinkin bout goin out lookin today, but haven't got around to it, i don't know too much about mushrooms and only eat them a few ways, but morels and chantrels i love to pick, I don't know if the ones i found are the true ones or false ones, but from what i just read, seems they are probably the false ones!
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Gave'em a couple of days, and look what happened
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Edited by navigator (03/31/05 04:22 PM)
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Let me try this again
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I have GOT to find some of these.
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Aunty, just find the cottonwood trees and start looking. Lots of times they will be on one side of a tree, and on the same side of other trees nearby.
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hey, them are the ones i've been finding, are those the false ones mitch?
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false
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Yes false. Like true morels, some folks are allergic to these. If you haven't eaten them before, it is safest to eat a little for a couple of days, to make sure you are not allergic. I think this is the best thing to do with all new species. The best bet is to Parboil them and discard the liquid, then cook them. They are good fried in butter, or used in sauces just like other mushrooms. I haven't tried stuffing them like true morels, because the shape is different. Go gather a basket full, and enjoy.
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There's a good illustration on page 8 of the FS publication listed at the end of the ADN article that gives some internal differences between the types also.
To go along with Navigator's good advice on testing one's tolerance slowly, I'd add that they should never be eaten raw. The recommendation to discard the first cooking liquid is a good one. Something I never knew before getting involved with this workgroup was that really no mushroom should be eaten raw, even the domestic ones you see out on the salad bar.
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Time to start looking for the True Morels....found one yesterday.
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can't sat that i found any, but while stayin with some freinds in stevensen, they picked a fair bunch and fried them up sat. night,boy where they good... hope someone else is getting into some..
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They were everywhere weekend before last when I was in Baker City.
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whoa... now thats a bunch of shrooms,whens dinner
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Hmmmmmm roadtrip to the Enumclaw area may be in the works.
Very nice pile of morels!
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Nice batch tule!!
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