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Saltwater rookie: Tackle and techniques for Lings? new
      #185049 - 05/04/05 11:01 PM

I have never been fishing for Lings. Can someone point me to some good articles describing tackle and techniques for Lings?

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Re: Saltwater rookie: Tackle and techniques for Lings? new [Re: zoom]
      #185050 - 05/04/05 11:42 PM

You could do a search of this board for that info...bunch of it here. From a boat I
personally I prefer vertical jigging metal dart type jigs anywhere from 1 to 6 ounces. ...white or silver colors. A decent downrigging rod or heavy salmon rod will work.....use a powerpro type line.

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Re: Saltwater rookie: Tackle and techniques for Lings? new [Re: Gooose]
      #185068 - 05/05/05 07:18 AM

I don't know of any articles to point you to, but this is my technique.

Go to a marine store like boater's world and pickup a "fish-n-map" chart. They make them for North Sound, South Sound, etc. Target your fishing on the areas marked on the chart as good bottom fishing. You are looking for rocky areas with irregular bottom depths. In other words, don't stay on big flat areas. I prefer bottoms that go from about 40-80 ft in a short distance. I'm not talking about gradual declines. I'm talking about areas that go up and down, up and down.I prefer to drift with the tide/currents by likely spots. If you drift a couple of times and don't have bites, move! If the lings are there they usually hit. Drop your gear to the bottom. Raise and lower the rod as you drift. As far as rigging goes, use a fairly stiff rod for jigging. Otherwise, you will just be loading up the rod and the gear will only be slightly moving. I use cheap Shakespeare Sturdy Sticks with my downrigger reels (Penn 321). I like to use a 4-6oz cannonball on a dropper. But, you may have to go heavier as much as 2 lbs to stay near the bottom without too much angle. In that case, a spreader bar is probably called for. My leader is a 3-4 ft 50lb leader with a 7/0 and 9/0 gamakatsu barbless. I usually use Black label herring. Put the hooks in like "normal" with the points going out of the bait in 180 degress from each other. Lings have huge mouths, so that calls for huge hooks. The bite is pretty easy to tell. Basically, the gear just stops! Sometimes you have a decent fight. Mostly, it is meat fishing. You can also use larger jigs with large plastic grubs. Use the same jigging technique with enough weight to get to the bottom.

Watch out for their teeth! Bonk several times. They are tough fish.

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Re: Saltwater rookie: Tackle and techniques for Lings? new [Re: jimh]
      #185089 - 05/05/05 09:09 AM

The charter boats just put a herring on a line and drop it into the rocky areas. Lings are agressive opportunity eaters.. I catch lots of them motor mooching with herring when I get to close to them. Many are caught if you let a smaller bottom fish sit for a second before cranking them up.. lings will just grab hold looking for easy meal. Can usually get one shot at them when they come up with a fish stuck in there jaws .

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Re: Saltwater rookie: Tackle and techniques for Lings? new [Re: Marty]
      #185098 - 05/05/05 10:10 AM

I'd add that using a 1 foot steel leader to your bait will help decrease the possibility of them eating through your leader. I have had them bite right through 40# test like it was 4# test.

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Re: Saltwater rookie: Tackle and techniques for Lings? new [Re: Ryley]
      #185153 - 05/05/05 01:06 PM

Thanks for all the tips. I've decided to go up to the San Juan islands this weekend with a couple of buddies to try a Bottom (Lings, Halibut and Rockfish) fishing, private charter.

http://www.sanjuancruises.net/vessels.html

After this I'll be ready to hit the Sound. When I get back if anyone is interested in giving me some on the water tips you are welcome to join me on boat. I have a 29ft Searay Amberjack.

I'll post the report as soon as I get back from the islands.


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Re: Saltwater rookie: Tackle and techniques for Lings? new [Re: zoom]
      #185605 - 05/08/05 09:12 PM

I'm back! Now for the report.

Part 1:
I arrived on Orcas at approx about 6:30 on Thurs evening. The place where I was staying had a 9ft Livingston style dinghy that is used for dropping crab pots. Given that the water was glassy calm that evening I broke out one of my downrigger rods, attached a 3oz silver and purple dart and headed out to do some jigging.

I was about 200ft from shore in 60ft of water. On my second drop down I felt a gentle tug of the line. With the rod tip high I reeled it in to see what was on the other end. It was a little rock fish, no more tahn 6 or 7 inches and it was hooked in the lip. I left him on there for bait :- )
I spent the next hour in eager anticipation waiting for a Ling to gobble up the rock fish. Alas, it was not to be. I even managed to release the rock fish and watch him swim away.

Part 2:
The fishing charter was left at 3pm from Deer harbor on Friday. It was sunny and warm but it was unfortunately quite windy. The guide warned us that conditions were not good for bottom fishing. He took us to teh lee side of the island but we still had to get very close to teh island to try to get protection from the wind.

Damm! those 7/0 hooks on a 6oz jig-head are big! Boy I have led a sheltered fishing life. All of his rods were 7-8ft ugly sticks. All but one had spider-wire, the other had 50lb monn test. They all had level-wind reels. He recommends spider-wire for its greater sensitivity in helping the angler feel the bottom. I can vouch for that having tried both the spider-wire and the mono.

It was tough, tough going. The wind was moving the boat so fast we were either blown too shallow or as soon as the lure would touch the bottom you would snag. I was amazed how many snags we were able to get free but we did lose at least a half dozen lures. On one attempt to un-snag, the guide broke an ugly stick (with spider-wire), which is how I ended up with the trying out the rod with mono.

Well you are all probably wondering did we catch anything? Depends on you definition of catch : -) The first thing we pulled out was a Sea Cucumber. The guide said it was a real delicacy, however, no of us had an apprtite for the slug-like creature. Next up was a lingcod that was must have been all of 12 inches. The guide said he had never seen a lingcod that small. : -) We left it on for bait. We pulled up two more that were not much bigger and one keeper rock fish. That was it. A real tough day on the water, but anyday on the water with a rod in your hand is better than a day in the office!

I'm off to buy some spider-wire.


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Re: Saltwater rookie: Tackle and techniques for Lings? new [Re: zoom]
      #185627 - 05/08/05 11:49 PM

Well you now have an idea of what it's about. I don't know where your boat is based out of but one nonsecret is that the rip rap walls surrounding nearly every harbor or marina in Puget Sound has Ling cod hanging out amongst the structure. Fun fishing in as shallow as 10 feet but typically 20 to 50 feet of water.

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Re: Saltwater rookie: Tackle and techniques for Lings? new [Re: Gooose]
      #185669 - 05/09/05 09:15 AM

Also, when the wind is blowing while bottomfishing and you're in a private boat, a skilled person on a kicker is invaluable.

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Re: Saltwater rookie: Tackle and techniques for Lings? [Re: Gooose]
      #185824 - 05/10/05 12:14 AM

Don't ignore shallow rocky natural shorelines either. You'd be surprised where you'll find keeper Lings. There's also a number of artificial reefs WDFW created years ago throughout the sound. A call to the Oly office should result in a location brochure for these. Acquire a good set of charts of the sound and look for humps, lumps and structure and explore. Look for rocky bottom structure on those charts. Also pursue the location of sunken vessels.

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