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I have a ruger mk77 in 270 and 300 and i was wondering if reducing the trigger pull would help accuracy. how hard is it to do or should a gunsmith do it
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There are drop in kits for that rifle. I'd suggest taking it down to Dick Gates, at the gun shop in Monte, and have him do it.
Where you gain accuracy from lightening up the trigger pull is if it is too hard. This causes you use too much force. Of course, you don't want it to be too light for hunting either. If you can get 1.5-2" accuracy at 100 yards, you might want to leave it alone.
What's the best group anybody has ever shot with the rifle? What's the best ammo for your rifle, group size wise? Start here, then start playing with the internals. Have you ever shot an accurized rifle before, and if so, what was the best group you shot?
I'm not trying to bash you, but trigger time is invaluable. Sometimes the rifle is plenty accurate, and the problem is actually the shooter. Time shooting a pellet or BB gun is excellent training. I still shoot my pellet guns (Webley .177 and .22 cal) on a regular basis.
I shoot in your neighborhood a lot. (Upper Nooch drainage) If you ever want to shoot some accurate rifles, let me know. I have a range that allows shots out to 350 yards marked out.
I have ammo for the .300 Win Mag, but none for the .270. My .300 Win Mag is also a M77RS, and shoots very well stock out of the box. I could also bring the .17 HMR, an AR, and a few other toys.
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My father owned a 7 mm Remington Magnum that I could shoot dime size groups with at 100 yds with handloads. My father couldn't, but he knew that it was him. He just had me sight it in, and then he'd practice. 
What you might find useful is having a really good shot shoot it. That is, if you aren't a great shot. That should give you an idea of its potential. I'd be surprised if the trigger is so bad that someone can't shoot good groups with it right now. But, it happens.
I'm not saying getting the trigger improved is a bad idea, but it might not be necessary if the problem is you. One thing about reducing the pull is that there is a slight reduction in potential safety. That is, if you go too light, just touching it can make it fire. That's a real problem if you are used to triggers with creep. A good gunsmtih won't set the trigger up that way.
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I'm gonna have to agree with Jim and DF, it prolly isn't just the trigger pull, unless it's really fouled up.
Take it to a 'smith and let him look at it to see if the trigger mechanism is fouled up. If so, replace it and try that for a box or two of rounds. Compare your accuracy to pre-repair groups and go from there. 
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I have a M77 that I've shot for 20 years and when I shot more I'd group 2" at 200yds but now I'd be lucky to keep it on the paper after a few shots.
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I have a ruger mk77 in 270 and 300 and i was wondering if reducing the trigger pull would help accuracy. how hard is it to do or should a gunsmith do it
I have 3 mk II"s. Have had to a trigger job on all! The newest had a 7lb pull. Was fine @ 30yrds, beyond you couldn't keep it on the paper. Ruger is known for a healthy trigger pull.
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My primary elk and mule deer rifle is a Ruger mkII. 7mmRem mag. Was always reasonably accurate. Had the trigger done (3 lb), And pilar bedded (action). Now the thing is freaking deadly. A trigger that creeps or pulls to hard will affect accuracy. Most new rifles that have non-adjustable triggers pull way too hard. I think due to lawsuits. One thing i do to improve my shooting is dry fire the rifle 10-15 times prior to firing at the range. gives you a feel for exactly when the trigger breaks. Good luck.
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I recently bought an older Ruger M77 tang safety in .30-06. The trigger isn't super light but 3-4lbs(can't remember if I measured it or not) but has no creep or overtravel. Haven't shot it yet but I hope to soon.
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I realize that this post is pretty old but here are my two cents!
What I did with three different M77's is put in a timney trigger and glass bed the actions, these two things helped tremendously, brought my groups down to an inch. Finally I replaced the factory stocks with Hogue overmolded stock with aluminum bedding blocks which also work very well! Both my 30.06 and .338Jamison both shoot less than an inch at a hundred yds.
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I used a Ruger 7mm Mag for a season. The factory trigger was atrocious. A Timney trigger is a cheap improvement and a great improvement! Rugers are great rifles....just lacking in several areas to let them be a great rifle.
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Also making sure that the barrel is full floated as well also helps! You can either remove material from the stock or it can be done when you glass bed the action!
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