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Laboratory experiments with Pacific halibut Hippoglossus stenolepis revealed that hunger level had a significant effect on the first detection of bait, the number of baits located and attacked, the time required to locate and attack baits and handling times. In all cases, feeding motivation and efficiency increased with hunger. Light level influenced general locomotory activity and location and attacks on baits, but not detection or handling times. The effect of light was interactive with fish hunger level. Hungry fish could locate and consume baits in all light levels, ranging from daylight conditions to near darkness (108 µmoles photons m2 s1), but location, attack and handling times were all significantly elevated in low light conditions, and attack rates were significantly reduced. In the dark, only 50% of the baits were located and only 17% were attacked. Performance metrics were relatively similar among three higher light treatments (105, 103 and 101 µmoles photons m2 s1) where bait location and attack were more efficient. Active space and effective area associated with baited fishing gear will vary because hunger and light levels affect variation in bait detection, locomotion and feeding behaviour. Consequently, fishing activity and stock assessments that depend upon bait may be compromised by spatial and temporal variation in prey abundance, time of day, season, depth and other environmental variables that influence feeding motivation and efficiency
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So, if they're hungry, they're more likely to eat something, if they can find it.
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good summary elwood 
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So here is my thesis, fish areas that are not heavily fished and seek out new areas for the simple fact that ur baits have less competition! Then, depending on the depth ur fishing and the amount of light reaching the bottom floor, will depend on how well the fish can seek and attack! So if ur fishing 150 deep on a sunny day, chances are the fish will find ur bait and if hungry, whammo! If the lighting is dimmer, an added attractor is needed to increase ur chances of a hungry fish seeking out and attacking ur bait! If fishing deeper water say 250 on down, an attactor will probably always be a plus! The major key sounds like it is to find HUNGRY fish, to do this u would have to seek places less pressured where the bait is not thick and the fish are hungry and willing to eat! Good bait is always nice to, offer them a buffet! So, hungry fish = a motivated fish, lighting/ability to see = a hungry fish beable to seek and eat! So, bottomline, hungry fish + ability to see and seek + good bait =  
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Am I correct on this Marty?
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i wonder what style of attractor would work? lightsticks, rattles, of course your drift has alot to do with it as well, you have to cover water, .5 kts seems to be a nice speed. i wonder if a big spinner blade above you bait with rigged beads would work, give it a couple big jigs now and then, create some extre vibe.
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we have to fish for them in 600'+ of water out of Winchester and we put a small bell on our spreader bar for a rattle like the type used as a strike indicator when bank fishing, along with good bait it does the trick.
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I've heard that light sticks work on halibut.
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scss, we are in the same boat, 5-900ft when fishing out of depoe, you like the spreader bars? we had a neat set up, i will post it, it works flawless. do you guys fish the bandon high spot?
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to a point chris but the most important thing is to concentrate your efforts where they live. The more spots you know the better your chances are for having it to yourself. Theres a reason boats run 30 miles off the coast and skip the tweener water.
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true true marty!!! Mike, there are several things that make great attractor for halibut, i know several that are proven killers that do for a fact work well, they can get expensive tho, u are on the right track tho!
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I've heard that large pipe jigs with the upper half of the pipe empty work well. Just drill some holes in the empty part, toss in a light stick & some rags soaked in scent.
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365, we fish 50 miles or so as the crow flies northwest of the Bandon high spot, we don't fish there as the Bandon bar hasn't been dredged for some time and is pretty iffy to cross at times, much prefer either the Coos bar or Umpqua bar for crossing . we have about a 1 square mile high spot we fish more or less off of Florence. can't wait to hear about your setup.
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as i mentioned in another thread, i'll be heading to sekiu for halibut memorial weekend. i know nothing about attractants and lights. can someone fill me in on these techniques? what do you use for an attractant? what do you use for a light? how do you rig them?
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B-2 Double Glow Squid body rigged on a double barbless hook stainless halibut leader. Cram some sponge into the head of the B-2 for holding scent. There's a number of scents available that work...Butt Juice, herring, squid, shrimp, prawn, krill, sardine, anchovy. You want something that will last awhile and put out a heavy scent trail. Toss on a hunk of bait such as horse herring, octopus, squid, chunk of salmon,or even small bottomfish such as sand dabs and greenlings.
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Don't always assume that you will only find halibut on structure, humps and banks rising up from the bottom. Look for depressions, holes and pockets in the bottom also. Halibut like to rest along the edges of these.
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thanks. we use a squid body with either herring or squid attatched. i've never thought of stuffing a scent sponge in the squid body. do you know about the lights that other people were talking about? appealing to one more sense couldn't hurt. i'm not familiar with the b-2 double glow squid body (my dad has all of the tackle, i'm just along to do the reeling) does it actually glow?
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The B-2 glows in the dark...use a camera flash to lite it up. I've never messed with lite sticks.
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I read something the other day that said berkely Gulp in squid or grub large sizes were very effective as well. It was a good article but icant remeber where i found it. Guy was doing video of halibuts taking/rejecting baits.
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