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Fraser... new
      #295019 - 07/16/07 05:29 PM

So what's the word? Will there be a Sockeye harvest? Thought we should get some conversation going so next months plans can be made.

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: Fish Jesus]
      #295079 - 07/17/07 08:24 AM

Fraser Feva--I was up there July 4 weekend vacation in Harrison. The river is very very high.

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: Coho]
      #295081 - 07/17/07 08:29 AM

FJ - Right now there are some kings being caught. As far as the Socks go.... Im sure there will be a fishery, but only The Shadow knows when.
River is WAY up.

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: fishhog]
      #295090 - 07/17/07 12:07 PM

I think your camping spot at the top end of Grassy bar is under about 5 feet of water right now FJ.

I think I'm gonna be up higher again this year if I make it up.

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: 4Salt]
      #295105 - 07/17/07 02:45 PM

Dad's been going up to Spaghetti and doing pretty well lately. Nothing much over 20lbs though. I'll ask him tonight about any sox rumors

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: workin4fishin]
      #295215 - 07/18/07 11:51 AM

Steve are we talking week days or weekend. I vote for August 7 thru 9. Do we think the river will be down or will it continue to flow really High. Do we need to shoot for later in the Month. Me and Junkie are trying to figure it out.

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: FireFish]
      #295358 - 07/19/07 02:43 PM

A sockeye opening is expected in August....

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: Sienna]
      #295618 - 07/21/07 10:54 PM

Sox Schmox...

Check out this lil puppy Just a wee lil Fraser nook

I'm going up there next wknd.


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Re: Fraser... new [Re: workin4fishin]
      #295622 - 07/22/07 12:43 AM

Welcome to board Sienna!
That's quite pig in the pic Geoff...red chinook?

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: Musicman]
      #295634 - 07/22/07 08:53 AM

Yowsa!!

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: Fish Jesus]
      #295645 - 07/22/07 12:16 PM

That's a HOG!!!!!

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: Musicman]
      #295658 - 07/22/07 04:51 PM

MM,
the Fraser gets spring/summer chinooks called red sprngs or red chinook due to the red color of the meat. They get fall chinooks known as white springs or white chinook also due to the color of the flesh. Those start showing up later in the year. Right now the spring/summer fish have red meat.

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: Mojo]
      #295752 - 07/23/07 09:01 AM

The reds are excellent while the whites... taste like crap
Still fun to catch though.

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: fishhog]
      #295756 - 07/23/07 09:16 AM

Funny, my buddy caught a white a while back, still chrome. He said it tasted fine. I just can't wrap my mind around eating white fleshed salmon. It is a visual thing.

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: fishhog]
      #295757 - 07/23/07 09:16 AM

Nice Hawg

hooking a Spring does not gaurantee a red it could have white meat. A fall white in the Harrison/Vedder are built for fightin not eatin.


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Re: Fraser... new [Re: Coho]
      #295783 - 07/23/07 11:48 AM



I've only taken ONE king home from the Vedder, and once was enough.

Some say, you can tell if it's a red or a white, by looking down it's throat or behind the gill plate.
I don't know if it's true or not.

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: fishhog]
      #296426 - 07/30/07 07:09 AM

Any word on an opening yet?

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Re: Fraser... new [Re: Craven Moorehead]
      #296442 - 07/30/07 08:34 AM

Still no word. Not even any good rumors.
I went up this wknd to fish with Dad. Stopped in at my favorite shop and nobody had heard any credible rumor on way or another, but the predicted numbers seem to be way down. (not that DFO predictions are that credible either...)

On Saturday, we hit a few (very few) sox up near Spaghetti, but nothing worth heading up yet for even if it was open for retention. Even the criminals with the nets were not getting many that we saw. We had many opportunities to see them pulling up their nets. Many. They were all over the place. Small sleds and ~ 100 ft long drift nets. I've never seen so many in one day, and it was NOT open for the criminals to be using nets.
I stopped counting at 25 different boats; they moved around a lot, setting their drift, drifting right past you (close enough to see if they needed a shave or not) and then moving to another spot.

All of it illegal. All of it blatant in your face.

They would power up right in front of you, set their nets a few hundreds yds up, then drift right on by. To add insult to injury, DFO chartered helos and float planes would low fly over the sporties every once in a while, just for appearances.

In the restaraunt parking lot where we stopped for lunch, some guy approached us asking if we wanted to buy some fresh salmon, caught just that morning....


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As of July 27th new [Re: Fish Jesus]
      #296454 - 07/30/07 11:04 AM

Subject: FN0519-Salmon: Fraser River Sockeye Update - July 27 - Areas 11 to 29

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The Fraser River Panel met today to examine biological and other assessment
data on Fraser River sockeye salmon. In general, test fishing catches in marine
and Fraser River assessment areas have continued to indicate a very low
migration of sockeye salmon thus far this season. Estimates of Fraser River
sockeye escapement past Mission and observations of sockeye passing Hells Gate
similarly have also been very low.

The proportion of five year old sockeye in test-fishing catches to-date has
been much higher than forecast and is another factor that suggests extreme
weakness in the return of some four year old Fraser sockeye stocks, which were
expected to comprise most of the total Fraser sockeye production in 2007. The
weak return of four year old Fraser sockeye thus far is following a pattern
that is similar to the low returns observed to several other B.C. and
Washington sockeye stocks this season. For example, the return of four year old
Somass River sockeye is tracking less than one-third of the forecast to-date.
Although the possibility of later than expected marine migration timing of
Fraser sockeye cannot be ruled out, assessments of Early Stuart, Lake
Washington and Somass River sockeye do not suggest that their migration timing
is significantly later than average.

The estimated spawning escapement of Fraser sockeye in 2003 (the brood year of
the four year old sockeye returning now) was almost 2,000,000 fish, which,
based on past observations, would normally produce a reasonably strong return
of Fraser River sockeye four years later (i.e., in 2007). Poor marine
environmental conditions for juvenile sockeye in 2005 when the four year old
sockeye returning in 2007 entered the ocean as juveniles (i.e., generally warm
water temperatures, low oxygen levels, and low food availability), may have
negatively impacted juvenile-to-adult survival rates for at least some of the
Fraser sockeye stocks returning this season. The performance of this years
four year old sockeye return will be assessed further as the season progresses,
and as additional test fishery and escapement data are collected.

The marine migration of Early Stuart sockeye is complete. At the meeting today,
the Panel approved an in-season run size estimate of 13,000 Early Stuart
sockeye, which is less than one-third of the pre-season 50% probability level
forecast of 45,000 fish. The estimated 50% passage date of Early Stuart sockeye
through Area 20 this season is July 1, which is consistent with the pre-season
forecast of their marine timing. The estimated escapement of Early Stuart
sockeye past Mission through July 26 is 12,000 fish.

The migration of Early Summer-run sockeye through marine and Fraser River
assessment areas has been very low thus far and it is very unlikely that they
will reach their forecast level of abundance (50% probability level forecast of
690,000 fish) A more accurate assessment of their run size will be available
next week. The estimated escapement of Early Summer-run sockeye past Mission
through July 26 is 7,000 fish.

Summer-run sockeye (Chilko, Quesnel, Stellako, and Late Stuart) were forecast
to comprise slightly over half (3,369,000 fish at the 50% probability level
forecast) of the total Fraser River sockeye run in 2007 and harvest
opportunities were focused on this timing-group in the pre-season fishing plan.
It is early in the migration of Summer-run sockeye through the marine
assessment areas and an update on their run size and marine migration timing
will likely not be available until after the first week of August.

Migration conditions for sockeye in the Fraser River are presently
satisfactory. On July 26, the Fraser River discharge at Hope was about 6,100
cms, which is approximately 26% higher than normal, while the water temperature
at Qualark Creek was 16.7 0C, which is slightly lower than average for this
date. The discharge of the Fraser River at Hope is forecast to continue to
decline while water temperatures are forecast to increase to approximately 18.5
0C by mid next week. Fraser River water temperatures exceeding 18 0C may have
an adverse impact on the upstream migration of sockeye salmon.

The enumeration fences on Gluske and Kynock creeks in the Early Stuart system
are now operational; however DFO crews have been unable to install the fence on
Forfar Creek due to high water levels. Sockeye have recently been observed off
the mouths off all three of these creeks.

First Nations

Food, ceremonial and social fisheries (FSC) for First Nations targeting Fraser
River sockeye are open in Marine waters, however, given the low sockeye
abundance harvesting effort to date has been very low. There will also be
limited FSC fisheries in the Fraser River. Duration of FSC fisheries in the
Fraser River are reduced given the low abundance of Fraser River sockeye
observed to date.

Recreational

Recreational fisheries for Fraser River sockeye in South Coast marine waters
and the Fraser River remains closed to sockeye retention.

Commercial

No commercial fisheries are planned at this time.

The Panel will meet again on Friday July 31 to evaluate the status of the
Fraser River sockeye salmon runs and to consider regulatory actions.

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Re: As of July 27th new [Re: fishhog]
      #296552 - 07/31/07 06:50 AM

Thanks for the update Fishhog...

"The panel will meet again on Friday, July 31 to evaluate"?
HUH?

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Re: As of July 27th new [Re: Craven Moorehead]
      #296563 - 07/31/07 08:25 AM

Ya, they meet seems like couple times a week to review net counts and so forth.

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Re: As of July 27th new [Re: fishhog]
      #296567 - 07/31/07 09:00 AM

I meant they are using a goofy calendar. Today is July 31...but it is a Tuesday. Maybe they mean Friday, August 3rd?
I am just hoping for an opening.

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Re: As of July 27th new [Re: Craven Moorehead]
      #296642 - 07/31/07 04:52 PM

Here's the link for the Fishery notices

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/c...id=recreational

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Re: As of July 27th new [Re: Craven Moorehead]
      #296649 - 07/31/07 05:50 PM

Quote:

Craven Moorehead said:
I meant they are using a goofy calendar. Today is July 31...but it is a Tuesday. Maybe they mean Friday, August 3rd?





It's a metric calendar Eh? You need to hoist a few kokanees before you can truly understand it.


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Re: As of July 27th new [Re: workin4fishin]
      #297051 - 08/04/07 11:05 PM

You are reminded that there is a request by DFO to NOT BOTTOM BOUNCE at this time as seen here

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/c...ID=recreational

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Re: As of July 27th [Re: BCSteel]
      #297136 - 08/06/07 10:18 AM

Anyone Fras'n out there? How's the river lookin? Hows the fishin?

I will add after posting this--Talked to a friend in Agasizz--river dropping, a few springs , no sockeye retention , lots of sturgies


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Re: As of July 27th new [Re: Coho]
      #297167 - 08/06/07 07:06 PM

There be some kings being caught

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      #298178 - 08/17/07 01:58 PM

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RECREATIONAL - Salmon

Subject:
FN0597-RECREATIONAL: SALMON - Region 2 - Non-tidal Waters of the Fraser River


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Effective 00:01 hours Monday August 20, 2007 until further notice, there is no
recreational fishing for all Salmon species from the downstream side of the CPR
Bridge at Mission upstream to the Highway No. 1 Bridge at Hope, BC.

Current run size estimates of 120,000 Early Summer-run sockeye and 750,000
Summer-run sockeye are significantly below preseason expectations of 690,000
and 3,369,000, respectively. The limited amount of TAC remaining is required
for First Nations food, social and ceremonial purposes.

The Departments first priority is to ensure that there is sufficient sockeye
escapement to the spawning grounds for conservation purposes. The Department
is also committed to providing top priority, after conservation, to First
Nations fishing for food, social and ceremonial purposes.

Despite a no fishing for sockeye regulation for the sport fishery, DFO
continued to observe and receive reports that sockeye were being encountered in
the recreational fishery.

DFO is implementing this salmon closure in the recreational fishery to ensure
the above priorities are provided. This salmon closure will be reviewed
weekly.

Recreational fishing opportunities for trout, steelhead and sturgeon and other
non-salmon species remain open.

Variation order 2007-305 is in effect.

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