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Snagging Steelhead!
      #299360 - 08/27/07 09:23 PM

A very bold (and dumb) individual has been posting his "trophy" snagged fish on other forums and bragging about the fact with lots of pictures as proof. He has been banned from several forums for such practices but seems to always find a way to annoy people with new handles. It appears the fish has been snagged out of several AK Rivers illegally not to mention exceeded limits taken. What do you guys think the proper course of action should be?

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: steeliednr]
      #299363 - 08/27/07 09:32 PM

DUDE!!!!! How un-noticeable is the hook in the second photo

sorry for my language but someone should track this F***er and get him on camera snaggin steelhead and bust his A**

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: Greg_G]
      #299369 - 08/27/07 09:57 PM

I love the Grizz den!

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: CastawayChris]
      #299376 - 08/27/07 10:55 PM

not enough information to really do anything with at this point. It may actually be legal for him to fish that way even as distasteful as it is.

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: Marty]
      #299392 - 08/28/07 07:15 AM

That would be the infamous BIG STICK! I'd recognize him anywhere. He posted probably a hundred pics of himself, including the famous one of him not wearing pants on a predominately male forum.








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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: steeliednr]
      #299402 - 08/28/07 08:08 AM

I wasn’t aware that he was on gay forums also, not my thing but very weird indeed.

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: AuntyM]
      #299405 - 08/28/07 08:20 AM

Legal, or not...the poses and expressions in the pics makes me think this guy is a real tool! And judging by the partially nude pic posted by Aunty, I'd have to say that his moniker "Big Stick" is wishful thinking and false advertising.

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: steeliednr]
      #299406 - 08/28/07 08:20 AM

It wasn't a gay forum... which is why he probably shouldn't have posted the above pic for an audience primarily consisting of hetero fishing males.

We gave him grief for weeks, even after he was banned.



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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: AuntyM]
      #299423 - 08/28/07 09:48 AM

In Alaska

Snagging is legal in salt water, unless prohibited by
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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: ibgrizz]
      #299424 - 08/28/07 09:51 AM

I should Add Snagging it not my thing But it is legal.
And I have found Ways to out fish the Snaggers

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: ibgrizz]
      #299425 - 08/28/07 09:54 AM

I would also bet that that Hen in the first Pic does not meet the 36" min size limit on non cliped fish

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: ibgrizz]
      #299434 - 08/28/07 10:18 AM

perhaps he has tribal rights?

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: Marty]
      #299435 - 08/28/07 10:24 AM

He never said one way or another. I'm surprised he never joined here. I think the droolers would have chewed him up pretty bad if he had.

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: Marty]
      #299440 - 08/28/07 11:02 AM

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perhaps he has tribal rights?




Most likely not
But he may have Subsistence rights depending on where he lives

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: ibgrizz]
      #299445 - 08/28/07 11:52 AM

BIG STICK LIVES!

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: steeliednr]
      #299452 - 08/28/07 01:32 PM

It’s the same guy who was banned from TheHighRoad numerous times. He used to post pictures of other peoples game/fish and claim fame as his. I also recall him bragging about having rifles under 16" barrels without federal approval, basically committing felonies. That fish looks like freshwater and under limit size. He is a tool for sure.

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: backwoodearl]
      #299458 - 08/28/07 01:45 PM

Here is another thread of such matter

http://www.steelheader.net/ubbthreads/sh...5/o/all/fpart/1

That bigstick guy used to brag and claim how he was the best hunter on the face of the earth and the best fisherman too, I remember everyone laughing at him about 3 or 4 years back on the "other" forum. He used to post pictures of local game taken and never would say which were actually his, very shady. So much for "fishing" skill too I guess, I wonder if he is still trolling someplace.


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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: backwoodearl]
      #299462 - 08/28/07 01:51 PM

I got a question.... How in the heck do you snag a steelhead?..... I can understand a Chinook but a steelhead not sayin that i snag salmon but how do you snag steelhead?

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: Greg_G]
      #299464 - 08/28/07 01:59 PM

Same as any fish, you spot them, throw the grappelling hook over their back and jerk like hell. It isn't rocket science.

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: Mojo]
      #299465 - 08/28/07 02:01 PM

When you see a school or know they are there just toss a big hook with a weight and jerk, presto. Any idiot could do it, most are smart enough to not brag about the fact hovewer.

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: backwoodearl]
      #299466 - 08/28/07 02:05 PM

Alaska department of wildlife would be interested in this for sure, of course he will claim it was saltwater, freshwater snagging is a big no-no.

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: Greg_G]
      #299467 - 08/28/07 02:06 PM

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I got a question.... How in the heck do you snag a steelhead?..... I can understand a Chinook but a steelhead not sayin that i snag salmon but how do you snag steelhead?




Easy. Find fish holding in a pool. Toss large treble hook on far side. Let it sink to the bottom. Set the hook. Steelhead on.

I understand what the "bottomless" picture is. He's trying to open a fishing space on the gravel bar. If you saw him in this condition, would you fish on the same drift? Nope, me neither.

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: Trouthead]
      #299468 - 08/28/07 02:10 PM

Well maybe someone needs to snag him with a giant treble hook and see how he likes it

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: Greg_G]
      #299503 - 08/28/07 05:23 PM

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: Mojo]
      #299569 - 08/29/07 01:30 AM

That guy without pants looks like a guy I know from Prince of Wales the other pics (steelhead) I can't view or find for some reason, so I can't verify with only one pic I know him personally and you people need to get the facts correct before accusations,
I know for a fact that he has a subsistence permit and that allows the taking of any size steelhead in certain (not all) rivers on POW but there are quite a few, it also allows the use of bait snagging using fish spears and such most subsistence fishers use regular rod and reels with I think a limit of up to 20 steelhead a year on the island,

have you to know this has nothing to do with state laws (alaska fish and game) these are federal laws which precede state laws subsistence has number #1 priority in this state

also it doesn't matter if you are white tribal/native or black or whatever it is all based on the community you primarily reside in all you people which I assume are mostly "gussuks" white people could move to Prince of Wales say Craig tommorrow and in one year when you become a Alaska resident would have the same subsistence rights on steelhead/deer/salmon as someone like my buddy who has lived their for years or even generations.

I was there last spring and witnessed him legitamatly land tens of steelhead by legal means, I even questioned the dead steelhead in his freezing and all the egg cure around and he said he fills his subsistence card every year, no problem what he is doing is legal

he helped me to spots around island and he showed me hundreds of video/pics of steelhead caught by legal (state) regulation of which 95% percent were released he probably catches a couple hundered steelhead a year so if if catches 300-400 which I have know doubt having been there to fish myself and kills 10-20 for food on the table thats 3-5% total how many people total are killing steelhead on the island I would say very few maybe 50 people on the whole island of maybe 5,000 population if that

is it distateful to viewers to see steelhead snagged and killed yes but I don't know if explained that he was subsistence fishing or not I haven't seen his post personally I can see why people would be upset without an explanation,
does it make him an illegal snagging poacher by just the pic,

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: SEALHUMPER]
      #299689 - 08/29/07 02:43 PM

Sealhumper,
You're absolutely correct in that your friend may lawfully "snag" Steelhead under a subsistence permit here on P.O.W.. Good for you in standing up for your friend, but my question is this: If the man in question is such a great Steelhead fisherman as you claim ("he showed me hundreds of video/pics of steelhead caught by legal (state) regulation of which 95% percent were released he probably catches a couple hundered steelhead a year so if if catches 300-400 which I have know doubt having been there to fish myself") why does he need to snag them? I've fished Steelhead for 10 years here on P.O.W. and know some of the better Steelhead fishermen here on the island and none of them would be caught dead "snagging" them on purpose, but I don't recognize your friend. That really doesn't mean much, I just don't recognize the guy. As long as he has a subsistence permit and is honest in his harvest records, I've got no problem with it. Hey it's legal and who am I to judge him for acting within his legal right. I just don't personally believe in "snagging". I feel anyone who has any idea on how to fish can catch one when the conditions are right. NOT throwing out a large treble hook and snagging them.
Also, you speak about knowing all the facts about the guy in the picture and tried to touch briefly about Steelhead subsistence. Too bad your facts are incorrect. You wrote about if he kills "10-20 Steelhead for the table", guess what? That's over limits for subsistence. Spring season last from 3/1 to 5/31 and the limit is 5 per household. Then there is also a total season cap of 500 fish per season. The winter season runs from 12/1 to 2/1 and has a household limit of 2 with a total season cap of 100. These season caps are for the whole island. So if your friend were to take 10-20, he'd be over the 7 per year allowed. Just brought this to your attention since the last line in your post talks about people knowing all the facts and obviously you don't.


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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: AKScott]
      #299910 - 08/31/07 10:32 AM

Those pictures crack me up, he looks like Sly Stalones retarded meathead brother. Check out the death grip he has on the fish's gillplate in the second photo. I would NOT be fishing next to big stick, No sir.

Legal or not, anyone who snags fish with a straight treble hook is royal Douche in my humble opinion. Then, if they take proud-papa phots of themselves doing it, well that is just inbreeder icing on the cake.

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: KONGELAKS]
      #299925 - 08/31/07 12:56 PM

A great deal of people have contacted me with some more information, it seems this guy has been banned from every single forum he has ever been on (over a dozen) and now he trolls some shooter sniper site where people don’t know about him any better. Seems like the guy is hated everywhere but that one site. It’s amazing how some idiot can give the rest of sportsmen a bad name.

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Re: Snagging Steelhead! new [Re: steeliednr]
      #299934 - 08/31/07 02:47 PM

No foolin.. Its Big Stick.. what a tool. This guy can fire off 150 posts in 8 hours.. funny stuff

Soooo Laffin... next ??

Never even glanced at the Alaska forum and the first time I do, the first thing I see is Big Stick... talk about a bad omen


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Re: Snagging Steelhead! [Re: BRUN_STEELIE]
      #300165 - 09/03/07 05:44 PM

I think recognise that guy as a logger up there. Clearcutting old growth trees with 20' bases left and right.

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