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I started with a 1942 model that had a beat to death cracked stock and metal with no finish, but it had a great bore and a tight headspace...and I got it for $25. at a garage sale.
Smoothed out the tool marks on the barrel, re-blue'd everything, added a Richards Microfit Varmit stock in Claro Walnut, bedded the action,floated the barrel, stoned the action rails and grooves as well as the sear and made the trigger semi adjustable, it's at about 3 lbs pull now and smooth as silk to operate. Made a ring pull safety handle, and topped with an ATI scope mount and a Pentax 3-9x50 Gameseeker.
All I have left to do is to make an original looking custom bolt handle and reshape a magazine/trigger guard that'll really set it all off from any other Mosin.
I used one of my extra magazines/trigger guards and fabbed a bolt handle on a spare bolt body I had, just so I could take it out and shoot it.
I must say it is sweet to shoot and after a little bit of sighting in, at 100yds. it put out 1.25-1.75" groups with S&B 180gr. soft points.
That's good enough for me from a 65 yr old balttle rifle that probably never had a non corrosive round through it till today
All together I have about $250. into it incl. the scope. Yeah, I know I could find a nice new rifle in that price range but what fun is that....and this one is mine.
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Nice little rifle. I was amazed at how stout a round it was when I fired it for the first time.
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Yeah, and the ballistics are especially good for the cartridge. In a good barrel, and with selected handloads, they do VERY well! And they are actually .30 cal. rifles!
Nice job customizing it! It sure as hell beats the ugliness of the original military version!
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$250 is really not that bad for one that turned out that well. And anymore a decent centerfire rifle for $250 seems to be getting harder and harder to find. What are you planning for the magazine? I didn't like them at first but I really like the looks of them now.
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Well, as the cartridge is a rimmed cartridge, like the .303 British and the ol' ".30 US" (or .30-40 Krag, as we know it today), not much can be done to the magazine without severely restricting the capacity severely. Those rims take up a lot of room.
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Is the mag for that rifle single stack or staggered? If one was not concerned that much about mag capacity you could modify it to be flush with the stock. I did a custom project rifle using an 1891 Argentine 7.65mm Mauser which had a single stack mag that extended below the stock. If I did it again I would consider modifying the mag from single stack to staggered.
Does the Moisin have a cock on bolt closure mechanism or a cock on opening?
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My 1st prototype was an almost flush to stock 3 rounder. My 2nd is going to be a 4 rounder with a 5th in the chamber and only protruding about 1/4", but it'll have to wait till after hunting season
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Gooose said:
Is the mag for that rifle single stack or staggered? If one was not concerned that much about mag capacity you could modify it to be flush with the stock. I did a custom project rifle using an 1891 Argentine 7.65mm Mauser which had a single stack mag that extended below the stock. If I did it again I would consider modifying the mag from single stack to staggered.
Does the Moisin have a cock on bolt closure mechanism or a cock on opening?
It's cock on opening as I recall. The mag is single stacked. Not sure how well the staggered mag would work with rimmed cartridges. Personally I actually like how the magazine looks on a Mosin.
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Yeah, there's something about rimmed cartridges.... take a look at the magazine on a Krag/Jorgenson rifle (that preceded the '03, and the Winchester M 1895 lever gun. There was a "trick" to loading 'em - the cartridge rims all have to be forward and ahead of the ones below it in the magazine. Otherwise, you can have a loading jam on your hands! And THAT is not fun!!
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Bob thanks for the explanation on how the Krag magazine was loaded. I've handled a couple and always wondered about that.
I sure would like to see some pics of those shortened magazine configurations.
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Yeah, there's something about rimmed cartridges.... take a look at the magazine on a Krag/Jorgenson rifle (that preceded the '03, and the Winchester M 1895 lever gun. There was a "trick" to loading 'em - the cartridge rims all have to be forward and ahead of the ones below it in the magazine. Otherwise, you can have a loading jam on your hands! And THAT is not fun!!
BobK
The mosin actually has a magazine interrupter that's supposed to isolate the top round in the magazine from the rest of the rounds so that it's rim doesn't catch. Not entirely sure how well it works but I haven't gotten mine to jam. Although unless I use clips and put it in upside down I load basically the way you described, actually I load pretty much all of my magazines that way.
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Hmmm there were several rimmed cartrides developed for Mauser and Mannlicher rifles. I wonder if the Moisin would be adaptable to those? Possibly larger cases and bullet diameters?
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Hmmm there were several rimmed cartrides developed for Mauser and Mannlicher rifles. I wonder if the Moisin would be adaptable to those? Possibly larger cases and bullet diameters?
I've seen Mosins converted to .45-70 , .410 and .300 WSM. The WSM wore the gun out pretty fast but it still handled quite a bit before the maker retired it because of measurable deformation of the locking lugs. There where also .30-06 conversions in the 50's, I believe, that tended to self destruct fairly quickly due to the way they rechambered the original barrels. As is 7.62x54R isn't all that light of a round, pretty close to .308 and .30-06.
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