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Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions?
      #303944 - 10/02/07 10:14 PM

Ok, the new boat will be on my doorstep Nov 4th, and everything is turnkey, except I don't really have dr rods for the twin Scotty 1106s. Just doing the typical blackmouth thing this winter. Any ideas? Summer bring bigger fish, so probably a different setup. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: Bronco74]
      #303946 - 10/02/07 10:44 PM

You might want to do some searches since this is kind of a common question. One choice is Shimano tdr 1802 with a Cardiff 4000/1. But, that same rod will handle all that you're likely to hit in Puget Sound.

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: jimh]
      #303948 - 10/02/07 11:26 PM

I have the Cabelas Depthmasters...Penn 320Gti's....seem to be nice setups...rods came with my downriggers thru Cabelas....GIJoes had the Penns on sale for $59.
But, in the future i'll probably get some Loomis GL2's in 1265.

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: Musicman]
      #303960 - 10/03/07 04:19 AM

I have a Shakespeare MDS1186 2MH Ugly stick that I have caught PS Blackmouth, Summer Kings, Coho, and Pinks. It's a little heavy for smaller blackmouth, but you never know when that 12lb blackmouth is gonna strike. Downrigger fishing puts a lot of stress on rods so I'd be leery of using expensive graphite rods, after busting a couple in the past I went with the Ugly stick and it's been with me for years now. The Shimano TDR's are also a good downrigger rod.

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: Quillback]
      #303997 - 10/03/07 12:24 PM

I agree with Jim.......I run TDR 1802's with Okuma convector 30's.......Great for anything you wanna catch in the puget sound.........A great rod IMO for under 50.00 bucks

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: Quillback]
      #303998 - 10/03/07 12:25 PM

You might check out the Okuma Celilo rods. I bought a pair to try out this year for 32.99 each, and paired them with a Penn 310 and 320. Great rods for the money and had no problems handling Puget Sound kings this summer.

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: Hatch]
      #304001 - 10/03/07 01:41 PM

Thanks all for the suggestions. I wasn't aware that the DRs put such a strain on rods, so going with less expensive glass seems smart. I'll definitely check out the suggestions. Much obliged. JimH, hopefully I'll catch you on the water this winter.

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: Bronco74]
      #304018 - 10/03/07 06:22 PM

I use a 10' fisheagle 2 in an 8-17lb. Handled fish to 27lb this summer. Allows me to load rod up on the rigger and also I belive a longer limber rod results in less lost fish while using barbless hooks. Out of 30 hookups we lost 4 and one was to a wad of kelp.

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: Desertdog]
      #304023 - 10/03/07 07:07 PM

Great idea DDog, i've got 3 of them in the garage and they do have the limberness but some backbone to boot...i'll have to give a spin.

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: Musicman]
      #304052 - 10/03/07 10:44 PM

Shimano TDR's are an easy choice. Reality is for downrigger rods you really do not need to be that picky and inexpensive is usually the best choice. I've done well with using my steelhead rods for instance although I've cringed at the obvious strain they've endured. Basically an inexpensive workhorse rod will do the job as the rod is not actually doing the fishing.

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: Gooose]
      #304265 - 10/04/07 07:38 PM

This is where Brewer's yeller rods or Uglysticks shine.
After many years of rigging The Great Lakes you will not find
Lamiglas or Loomis on rigger. And why there is some good rigger
rods that will give you many years for the buck.
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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: Will fish for food]
      #304320 - 10/04/07 08:44 PM

See I do have a pair of yeller rods, eight half foot Eagle Claws, that might do the trick. 10 bucks a piece at Sportco if I recall. My buddy is fishing a pair of shiny new Lamis and paired up with Tekota 500s (w/line counters of course). Probably has 600 bucks into his setup. Mine - around $150, with a couple of nicer Penns. Sounds like I'm fine, unless I wanted to upgrade to 30 buck rods.

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: Bronco74]
      #314633 - 12/28/07 10:00 AM

So there was a big fat Cabela's gift card burning a hole in my pocket, and I made the ten minute run from my outlaw's on the 26th. Mistake. I had a list of things to get, and nearly each one of them was gone, usually accompanied by a sale rep saying, "should've been here at 9AM at the latest". So no luck finding the Shimano TDRs. I got a pretty hard sell on the Cabelas Depthmaster, and picked up a 9 footer. Anyone had experience using the funky line-in-rod system? I know Musicman said he had a one or two lying about. Additionally, I picked up a 9' Shimano Clarus MH with fast action (can't seem to find that on the Shimano website however).

As a side note, a few of the Cabelas reps are pretty frustrated at not being able to keep Northwest specific gear in stock for any length of time (i.e. 10-15lb DR balls, sinking crab line, etc). But if you want to fish for bass...

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: Bronco74]
      #314672 - 12/28/07 04:56 PM

The funky line in rod systems in my opinion are just that.. funky. Plus ive herd seaweed is a problem with them.

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: SHAUNPMR]
      #347918 - 09/25/08 12:21 AM

All good choices above. The problem you'll run into is graphite is not the best choice for a rod in the downrigger. There's plenty of play with the fish, but graphite weakens over time - each time you fish - the rod is going to break eventually towards the butt section. This is even more true if you load (properly) the rod "to the butt." A glass rod is a lot thicker in the butt section and will take the abuse of loading, but (IMO) your fishing a broomstick. Plus I personnaly like the extra length of fishing longer rods in graphite or composite- they have far more advantages over shorter rods... something you will not find in a glass rod. Another choice to look at is having a few rods built for you. I might suggest looking a Rainshadow rods... a 1264 is a great blackie rod and moving up to a 1265 in the summer.

If I had to choose... a 10 1/2' Shimano Convergence (12-20) for winter fishing and a (12-25) for summer fishing. In the glass department... a Shimano TDR 9 1/2 for an all rounder..

If you are like the average boat owner... it doesn't make much sense to have $30K plus wrapped up in a boat and $50 rods.. Buy the best you can afford. This alleviates the trouble and inconvenience of having to replace rods down the road. The Rainshadow DR rods are composite rods and you'll be pressed to break them. They backed by a solid lifetime warranty to boot... not to mention something that was specifically built to your standards.

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: Bronco74]
      #352397 - 10/28/08 05:34 AM

I run a Lamiglass rod, Thomas packs an Ugly Stick and we were keeping a big yellow stick in the boat until the top eyelet got broken off of it. But that is what it was there for!

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Re: Downrigger rods for Salmon - Suggestions? new [Re: FWC_Cliff]
      #358226 - 12/14/08 03:03 AM

Joes and sportco have Quantum rods on sale right now and I have four and I am very happy with them. I have had one break but that was because a dude with me got hung up and instead of bringing up the DR ball before, he broke it, but Joes took it back with no problem. I have expensive reels but I just can't pay 300 for one rod. Just my humble opinion. At least for rods your running on DR.

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