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Whats wrong with that Nick??
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That's some funny shiat NickV.
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Whats wrong with that Nick??
Nothing if you don't like our habitat. Oops, did I say that out loud?
Actually, I didn't mean anything by my first comment yesterday except that I think I recognized him. Actually, his pictures were pretty cool if it is the guy I am thinking of. Never seen a chainsaw that big!
I wouldn't have been in business for the past 4 years if it wasn't for logging. (carpenter)
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BRUN_STEELIE said:
No foolin.. Its Big Stick.. what a tool. This guy can fire off 150 posts in 8 hours.. funny stuff
Ya? Big deal, I can get banned from a forum in 6 and still get let back in to get banned immediately after...beat that BigStick!!!
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I spent a few years logging. Some of it shouldn't have been allowed or done differently back then but I believe that it's had far less impact than clearing the land for housing and shopping mall developments.
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A good friend of mine is a logger and he tells me stories of the stuff that goes on and it's very bad. He told me about a creek he logged near that was running clear as long as he could remember. After he got done logging a mountainside that bordered it the creek was running milky brown and thick. This was a couple years ago and it hasn't cleared up yet. They were following all laws about buffer zones too. He's seen bald eagle nests that had fallen, and many other things.
But it's one of those things that needs to get done...unfortionately.
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Gooose said: I spent a few years logging. Some of it shouldn't have been allowed or done differently back then but I believe that it's had far less impact than clearing the land for housing and shopping mall developments.
I would have to agree with that
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Your enviro's must be asleep at the wheel or chained to another tree and lost the key. My whole family fits the bill and I did it for long enough. The forest circus and private inspectors show up on your job a few times a week. I would bet there was something else involved with the erosion issues. Burn perhaps?
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I have to agree as well Gooose!!!
When timber companies log there are trees planted back, when asphalt is laid down you can forget about a tree growin back!!
Nick can you say renuable resource???
Although Nick I had to get a kick out of the "20ft base" please let me know when you find one that big without going to the redwood forest I have cut timber all over washington, oregon, idaho, alaska and northern calif. and never seen a tree 20ft dbh. But then again they never cut me loose in the redwood forest or it would be nothin but stumps now
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second pic looks like a humpy to me.
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I had to deal once with a cedar butt cut that went 12 feet across the butt and around 8 or so feet at the 40 foot mark where the fallers bucked it. I to this day believe the damn Bull told them to do that as he knew my tower was the one that was gonna have to get it out of the woods. We weren't too partial to each other. We were on a flat swampy unit below Mctheney Ridge aka Mud Creek...Timber has probaly stomped around that ground some. Should have heard the radio chatter when I called the yard that morning before work for log trucks for the day.....3 lomgs and a mule in the morning that could go to another side on their next runs. The chatter was due to my request for a Low Boy truck. The owner of the company Mayr Bros. sure as heck wanted to know what I wanted with his Low Boy truck as we weren't scheduled to move any equipment. The Bull chimed in saying as usual I was a nut case. I simply responded by telling them to have the gawd damn Low Boy backed into the landing at lunch time and walked off the landing to my rigging rat crew. 4 hours later we moved that damn log the 1,000 feet thru the mud to the landing...dropped the rigging off the mainline and shackled the mainline just a tad towards the the butt from the balance point and picked it up while having the loader grapple and maneuver it around...backed the Low Boy in under it and dropped it carefully in place. Low Boy driver is looking at me with this what the f**k look...I shrugged my typical f88k you you are just a truck driver shrug and my crew of rigging rats chained and binder jacked that piece of wood in place and sent the load to Hoquaim. We finished the day yarding some nice cuts of spruce. The owner never said a word to me...never expected one as I was just doing what was expected of me. The Bull never did say a word also...we never did like each other and the owner knew he tried to screw me. No need for me to ever say anything either...some times silence is the deepest cutting knife.
I've worked some units with large cuts of timber in them but anything past 10 feet in butt diameter was an extreme rarity. Working cuts of spruce was the most challenging with typical logs being 6 to 8 feet. That was always on flat ground. The scariest was large old growth Doug Fir and Piss Fir which was always on steep slopes. One of them breaks a choker or comes loose uphill of the rigging rats everyone was living on ultrapure adrenaline.
Sorry for the digression from the subject of the post...just having nostalgic flashbacks of when I was young and the world belonged to me.
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In the summer when the saps running there is always close calls on steep ground.Nothin like bellin up a 5-6 footer long enough to pick it up and have the snare slip right off..I had a couple tower sides when I had my loggin company but 95% of the time I was on the fallin end of my crew..Even then in the summer it could be fun if the caulks werent sharp and the sap was runnin and bark slippin off if'n you werent carefull alot of time was spent pickin yourself up off the ground Them trees are like there greased when the bark slips off..
I cut alot of big timber in my 20 years at it but personally 24 to 36" timber was alot easier to deal with..
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steeliednr,
Your first proper action,would be to get facts straight.
Firstly,a popped gill goes a nice way to increasing the relative tablefare of a victim. Now my preference is to reach within the gillplate with and index finger and sever a few gills on one side and let things bleed,prior to dressing them. It takes a certain amount of dexterity,but with practice,one can reliably accomplish the task in mere seconds. Rest assured,I've got it down pat.
Now a 5/0 LazerSharp isn't my idea of "huge",but it is my favorite terminal tackle for dredging chrome. With but a short shot of 3/8" hollow core pencil lead affixed on the mainline(mainline threaded through it's center),in front of the hook,one can rip through the weater in a straight line to very good affect. I've a marked preference for a lengthy rod,so as to maximize the relative stroke and think highly of the means for arranging fresh BBQ's.
I see Samonid ID troubles you,but that is a Silver Salmon(Coho),obviously in saltwater,as per the very telling Marine backdrop.
I much look forward to clarifying your numerous shortcomings and will go to length to do so.
Headed to the creek with the kids,a gaff hook,bucket of eggs and a camera.
Will try to cheer you up,on my return.
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Feel free to get squeamish about bloodspill on the Hunt too.

Headed to the creek................
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Short trip,but I'll load a pic.
Humors me much,when those that can't do for themselves,point jealous fingers at those that can............
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Headed to the creek................
nice buck
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Things taste better,when bled and she wanted him for dinner this evening. Personally,I think both were good calls.

Should touch on some "shady" stuff for backwoodearl.
I like the shade in this one.

Fill-flashed the shade in this one,but it caught the blood nicely.

The short barreled thing cracked me up too,will touch upon that later...amongst other things...............
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'grizz,
He's actually quite a bit better than that.

Will focus on fish for a while,just to quell the queasy...............
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dandy blacktail
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Timber said: When timber companies log there are trees planted back, when asphalt is laid down you can forget about a tree growin back!!
Nick can you say renuable resource???
I agree about the asphalt, but what happens if a farmer plants the same crop year after year after year?
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Gooose said:I believe that it's had far less impact than clearing the land for housing and shopping mall developments.
Leave the Tulalips out of this! 
Oh, and those little Alaska deer are so cute.
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Cupo who did the Tulapips learn from about how to make money? Hmmm would it be our society and culture? Can't blame them for being smart.
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I don't think the Big Bucks get cute,until they are in their prime,a touch later in the year. Early capes never did turn me on,much in the way beat up fish do nothing for me.
Will be looking for a cute one today,however,as it is that time of year.

I don't lament the fact that my home sets in the very spot,where 1000yr old trees once grew,nor the fact that I killed same.
In fact,I think that much sweetens the pot and adds much satisfaction to the equation.
Money DOES grow on trees........
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Hmmmmmm...where'd all the whiners go?!!?

I just know someone will be powerless to refrain from another stupid comment,miles seperate from fact...................
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Shady enough here,that it bordered on cold.

But if you've never had frozen guides,you've never caught very many Steelhead..................
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Let's mix things up a smidge,so maybe we can get more tears flowing................
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Alligator tears...............
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