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Re: The Swing Thing new [Re: BobK]
      #309277 - 11/15/07 08:10 PM

Yeah I havent been able to get that to work for me. I am sure that I have been doing something wrong. But I have been fishing some pretty fast water too. so it may be that it is just grabbing the line too fast for me to get it flipped over. Then I again, I managed to screw that up on the slower part too. Just practicing

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Re: The Swing Thing new [Re: Pug]
      #309319 - 11/16/07 06:53 AM

Let the ROD do the work when you give it the "flip of the wrist". How HIGH you lift the rod is important and has to be adjusted to the speed of the water. And, make sure the line FLOATS where you are flipping it up. Line dressing is important, and put some silicone (or other) dressing on the section of line before the sinking portion.

If the line sinks where you want to mend it, it is VERY tough to do! That could be the problem.

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Re: The Swing Thing new [Re: BobK]
      #309410 - 11/16/07 08:26 PM

That probably is the problem since i have never put anything on the line before.

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Re: The Swing Thing new [Re: BobK]
      #309432 - 11/17/07 08:06 AM

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Let the ROD do the work when you give it the "flip of the wrist". How HIGH you lift the rod is important and has to be adjusted to the speed of the water. And, make sure the line FLOATS where you are flipping it up. Line dressing is important, and put some silicone (or other) dressing on the section of line before the sinking portion.

If the line sinks where you want to mend it, it is VERY tough to do! That could be the problem.

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Re: The Swing Thing new [Re: fredaevans]
      #309434 - 11/17/07 09:22 AM

Thanks, Fred, for the nice comment. Unfortunately, NOT TOO MANY OF US THINK OF IT, but it is VERY important! Otherwise, you are trying to "pull the line through water", and it doesn't work too well - it "drags" the fly and sinking tip back, and it doesn't get a chance to sink well.

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Re: The Swing Thing new [Re: BobK]
      #312104 - 12/08/07 09:40 AM

Usually (depending on drift) I put one big mend upstream, then raise the spey rod up to lift the line further off of the water decreasing drag, try not to mend again, as Dec Hogan says in his book never mend on the swing, moves the fly too much unnaturally most of the time, Just reread this part of his book again in the last month. Recommend getting his book if you are new to steelehead and swinging flys, Wish I had this book 27 years ago when I started steeelheading.



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Re: The Swing Thing new [Re: Black_Ghost]
      #312179 - 12/09/07 10:34 AM

Think Dec has something to say there. The one thing I've noticed (far to frequently) is the person doing 'the mend' puts FAR too much into the action. End result is the leader, not just the line, is pulled. LEAVE THE LEADER ALONE!!!

Totally counter productive if the object is to sink the fly.

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