Greg_G
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What do you use spey for???
Isnt it the same as Centerpin???
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BobK
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No, no, NO! Spey Casting is totally different. These long 2-handed fly rods were developed by Salmon fishers on the Rivers of Scotland and the British Isles to allow a very long cast where there is little room for a backcast. Also, flies, leaders and lines were developed to allow for this technique. The name "Spey" denotes one of the rivers on which it was developed (incidentally, also the home of some of the finest Single-Malt Scotch Whisky!)
Use of this old technique was picked up by west coast anglers here, and it has since spread its magic elsewhere!
So, it's a flyfishing technique.
It bears NO relationship whatsoever to centerpin fishing, at least the way it is practiced here locally!
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Definitely fly fishing. Never tried it, but it's cool to watch.
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Greg_G
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ok then what is centerpin... i have seen them just never been told what they are used for and where i could find a cheap set up
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You'll be VERY hardpressed to find a good setup cheap. A centerpin usually has no brakes, it's full of ball bearings so it'll spin QUITE NICELY. But, they can give you one hellacious backlash if you don't control it. They look similar to a spey rod, but they are different. The cast is somewhat similar, but not exactly. They are just a different type of drift type rod (great especially with floats). I've used them up in BC. Just takes practice. I know JW Young and Hardy have some centerpins. The JW Young being cheaper. But a good centerpin reel should spin freely with the slightest of pressure.
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Greg_G
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what would you use with them???
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They are a baitfishing rig, not generally used for flies. They offer LONG drag-free drifts. They also are generally hated by other fisherman because of the long stretch of water covered, and the numerous "interferences" with other fisherman down stream.
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Bob hit it on the head. You can really work a slot, and extend the drift with ease.
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Quote:
Greg_G said:
ok then what is centerpin... where i could find a cheap set up
This is a 'rig' I've always wanted to try ... noodle rod fishing taken to the extreme. But the reels, Geeze Louise good ones are expensive! 
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okuma makes a perfectly good centerpin reel for around $150 to $180 I think is what I paid for mine . And you can get a custom rod builder to make a rod for you in nearly any price range you can afford . I could set you up if you are interested , with both rod and reel .
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vangofishin, ya, a friend of mine uses the Okuma centerpin reel and loves it.
He has the Okuma centerpin float rod too, they sell them for like (don't quote me on this) about $50-90 or in that price range. And they are from 12-14' long.
One nice CHEAP package.
I've used Okuma rods and they are very nice. I use an Okuma fly reel on my spey rod and it is very nice, smoother than any other reel i've ever used. They are cheap, but are quality made. Not a big fan of their baitcasting reels though...
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So does a centerpin reel use a fly type line or is is normal mono mainline?
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BobK
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The folks hereabouts on the Great Lakes tribs use VERY light mono on theirs. It allows very long, controlled drifts, and is usually fished with a very light bobber and a "string" of small split shot to the bait, usually an egg sack, or "wrigglers", but sometimes a fly, to keep it "at depth" and relatively straight down.
It is a very effective technique, though I don't use it myself. These guys are usually unpopular, as they can be at the top of a good run and tie the whole run up all day, because of the long drifts which can be accomplished.
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I've fished in Bob's neck of the woods a bit, and they love to use light lines. Where the noodle rod was born (at least in the style they use). Why most of the noodle rods have those odd seats on them (at least people think they are). They look like a fly setup with a little longer fighting butt. Those are the ones designed for centerpins.
A centerpin uses mono. The size of mono is dictated on the rig you're using (on the noodle rods you're using 8# test or less where some of the steelhead guys here are running 15# test + on theirs). No fly lines on them. They are a bait reel, not a fly reel. If you've ever used a very nice centerpin, you'll notice the difference immediately. Trust me, there is no comparison between a $100 centerpin and a $500+ centerpin. It's all in how they are made and the ballbearing setup. The ones I had the pleasure to use were so smooth, the slightest tap of the handle and they would spin for days (and I almost mean that literally). Why you have to really be in control of your cast when using one. If not, that reel will keep spinning as your bait (or float, etc) hits the water. Causing the worst rats nest you'll ever see.
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"Causing the worst rats nest you'll ever see. "
Now THAT I can believe Brothers and Sisters!!
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