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Thinking of trolling some flies. Anyone have any suggestions for trout flies when water temps are in 40 to 60s? Should they be trolled with a sinking or floating line? what depth? The trout we've been catching have been full of small sunfish, Any patterns that resemble this? Thanks in advance
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Plug I am not sure what the small sun fish look like, but I would wager a clouser fly tied with sunfish colorations would do the trick. The clouser is a fish imitation style fly that is used to imitate fish. Also not sure how deep the lakes your fishing are but if they have any real depth youre gonna need to use a sinking line to troll properly. Another fly that is good for trolling is the wolly bugger or the Carey special. If you want to fish a fly just off the bottom a floating fly will keep it just above the weeds with the sinking line on the bottom. If you have a fly shop nearby stop in and ask to get a floating clouser fly tied up in the sun fish color. They may look at you strange but you know what your want to imitate...just help them along  . If not maybe I can tie something for you if you can give me a good description of the small sunfish.
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Tube Flies in a Mickey Finn or Red White Patttern...work anywhere in the world when the water temp. is as you stated.
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Plug just talked to your dad about the sunfish description. Would be a easy one to tie. One question I forgot to ask. Is the body a dark grey or a black color. Using a black/grey saap body and fish hair for the lateral line, black marabou tail. tied on a #4 steelhead 2x long fly hook you should have a really nice imitation.
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Marty, dark grey with black virtical stripes
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Wooly bugger or wooly worm. I have caught more fish on that pattern than any other with black being the most productive and brown second. I haven't had as much luck with olive colors. If you are fishing where bait is allowed, just tip the bugger hook with a little piece of worm. You won't regret it.
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Well I tied as close as I could with out going to the fly shop for more materials (grey rabbit fur palmered). Plug email me your mailing address and I will send you what I made. Three different styles that should work. I think a bunny body on the fly would give the mass for the body also. So if I make it to the fly shop I will look for some material to make a couple of those too.
the material will lay flatter once it gets wet...so don't let the pic throw you.
 
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Hey Marty, those look great. Can't wait to give them a try. Thanks.
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Here's a nice pattern of a fly which resemles a small sunfish.  [This message has been edited by Eddie L (edited March 18, 2001).]
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Nice Looking imitation eddie...I would bite that
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Wow I'll say it does. Is there a name for it or is it something you whipped up.
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Fuzzabou shad is the name of the fly. It can be purchase at this link http://www.traflyfish.com/tying/warmwater/warmwater_index.htm Am I good or what...hehe
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I bet the fuzzabou shad fly would be a killer on cutthroats and smallmouths.
Here's the site,nice flies.
http://www.traflyfish.com/tying/index.htm
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good site for fly descriptions EddieThanks
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Plug did you get the flies in the mail yet? let me know when they show up. The fly shop didn't have any of the stuff I was looking for to make the imitation. I did get some good new jig material though 
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Marty, Not yet but didnt check the P0 today. Will let you when they show. Looking forward to given them a try.
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I'm off to try my early season trout flies on Silver Lake located South of Everett. The fisheries folks, bless their hearts, planted 480 or so triploids this week. This lake usually has some nice holdover bows too. And legend has it...some big ole browns.I hope the fish are still there because there were lots of fishermen giving it a try this week. Plus, one guy was using two poles. I called the game department on him and they said they would hunt him down. I hope so. I let you know if my buggers are still my hot fly. [This message has been edited by Maltby (edited March 24, 2001).]
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Hot, but not that hot. I got one hold over rainbow about 13 inches which I C&R'd. No triploids and only saw one other fish caught. There were surprisingly few fish rising despite a warm morning and a nice hatch going on. Oh well, at least I kept the skunk off.
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Maltby do you strictly throw flies at them trout?[This message has been edited by Marty (edited March 24, 2001).]
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Does anyone know how to tie the head of that thing? Is lambs wool quicker/easier to tie with than deer hair? Is the stuff like chenille... wrapped on or is it cinched down like deer hair?
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I myself would use deer hair trimmed at an angle to make the fly dive and dart with each pull,with a couple wraps of lead wire to help it sink slowly. It's a fly I'm gonna try for them lake planted triploids and cuttroats. Boy them bead chain eyes make the fly look live.
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Billy I believe that would be dubbed onto a waxed thread then wrapped like chenille. Its the common way to use animal fur other than bunny to make bodies.
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Generally, Marty I troll flies but I will at times troll as Kastmaster. I can't remember the last time I still fished. However, I'm not a fly fishing purist and will troll a fly tipped with a piece of worm or if I need some flash, I'll put the fly behind some double blades, like a Colorado spinner or something. I like using mostly artificial because nine times out of ten, even if I tip something with bait, the hook up is clean and the release is easy.I have never targeted triploids so I'm not sure that flies are even interesting to them. I've heard that the people using power bait from the dock do pretty good so the trips probably hang deep and sniff for bait. Maybe you have an opinion or knowledge about triploids?
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Triploids are caught on crank baits all the time on Rufus woods. We've even caught a couple on walleye jigs. A streamer should work great. Perch and crawdad color shadraps seem to be the prefered choice.
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Plugger is my resident triploid expert. We grew up fishing together, now he is on the East side chasing triploids and warm water fishies. My personal choice to catch the bigger fish is to troll chrome flatfish near the bottom (laker fishing style). The ones plug has been catching were full of the sunfish so I would try a flatty in that color tipped with a worm in that particular lake. Every lake is a little different so its takes time to dial into what they really want. I want to give circle hooks a try for my still fishing techniques because the trout always swallow the bait.
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Thanks guys.... I'll give them a try.
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Marty, I got the flies today. Will try them if and when the wind quits howling. It has been nasty.
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