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Just wondering what everybody thinks is the best youth model and caliber for a decent price. Someone was telling me today that a Model 77 with some light loads in a .270 would be good. .270 sounds over kill to me. With both of the kids passing Hunter's Ed, I am in the unfortunate  position of having to purchase a new gun or maybe even two.  As I have tried to tell my wife with a straight face (unsuccessfully), this is not a pleasure for me. 
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For deer I bought my wife a .243, nearly no kick. My .308 isn't bad either...
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Hard to beat a 30-30 for a first rifle unless you are set on them having scope sights. Model 94 killed a few deer, bear and an occasional elk and is inexpensive and indestructible. Throw a peep sight on it.
For a bolt action the Mod 77 is nice. .243, 257 Roberts, .270, 7mm-08 and .308 all kick about the same.
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The above are all good choices. The .243 is probably the best choice, because the bullets are of lighter weight, but constructed to give decent expansion on deer and bear sized game.
But most important, don't forget a youth sized stock, and the option get a standard size stock as they grow into it.
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savage makes a real nice youth model .243 I got one to use for a brush gun......replaced my 30/30.....I cant say enough about this rifle, been real happy with it and I thought i'd never find something i would like better than my 30/30
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Hard to beat a 30-30 for a first rifle unless you are set on them having scope sights. Model 94 killed a few deer, bear and an occasional elk and is inexpensive and indestructible. Throw a peep sight on it.
another vote for the 30-30, light enough for a youngin to pack, certainly lethal, and the price is usually right  
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Weatherby makes a nice youth combo rifle package in the vanguard lineup. It has a youth size stock as well as a full size one for when the kids get a little bigger.
I am a fan of the 7mm-08 also. It outperforms the 308 with heavier bullets and does very good with the lighter ones too.
Any of the short action calibers are good though. I wouldn't hesitate to buy any of them if the right deal came up.
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Here's one nobody has mentioned yet. A Ruger .44 Rem Mag Deerfield. It is the same size as a 10/22, just a bit heavier than a 10/22, packs enough wallop at the business end, and being gas operated has minimal recoil at the receiving end.
I also like the SKS.
You can use it as a single shot if you want when they are young, and as they earn trust with a firearm, give them one in the gun and one in the mag, and a spare mag.
It depends on if you'll chase blacktails, mule deer, or whitetails. If it is blacktails, the .44 mag is fine consider most shots are under 50 yards, and it is good to 100 yards.
It also depends on how big/strong the kids are. If you want, you could borrow my .44mag Deerfield, SKS, .280 Rem model 740 or my .30-06 model 740 and give it a try. I'll be up your way again this summer during salmon season and can let your kids try one or two on for size. All are gas operated semi-auto rifles and low recoil compared to a bolt gun. Hunter, age 11 and 70 lbs, handles the .280 Rem in semi-auto, the SKS, and the .44 mag well. He even shoots well with the .458 Socom, shooting a grapefruit sized pattern at 50 yards.
You could "Barney Fife" them, giving them 1 round for the chamber and another for their pocket if the semi-auto makes you nervous. That's what I did with my nephew.
When in doubt, buy them all.
Hunter has shot enough that he gets three rounds.
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For deer, I like the 30-30 and the .44 mag., both for length and power. I am also a fan of the .243 but I don't like it in brush cause the faster little bullet doesn’t plow through small branches like the slower 30-30.
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I was always taught to aim at the animal and not the branches, besides if i cant see a clear path on the other side of the animal, i dont take a shot........just seems to be packed through brushier areas without getting hung up on everything.....
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Someone must have had a bad childhood experience with a 30-30.
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