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will going to selective salmon fishing and not lowering the esa take rates help restore salmon ?? 
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in general or in specific cases? 
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in general
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"not lowering the esa take rates"
Trick science?
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Boater,
Selective fishing (sport) for salmon isn't intended to restore or recover salmon. How would it?
Selective fishing provides fishing opportunity for us to fish for marked hatchery fish when the alternative would be a closure to prevent too high an incidental harvest of wild ESA salmon. Selective fishing is a management invention generally intended to increase fishing opportunity and to increase the harvest of hatchery salmon.
What is your point?
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"not lowering the esa take rates"
Trick science?
i dont think you know the dif between the allowable esa take rate and what a mortality rate is and how they work together.
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Selective fishing is a management invention generally intended to increase fishing opportunity and to increase the harvest of hatchery salmon.
One way fishers can contribute to the recovery of weak stocks is by the use of selective fishing techniques.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/fish/commercial/selective/whatisselective.htm
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I dont care what you think. You were completely silent when I took the time to answer your question about NW Partners. You are a mooch.
Donate 20 bucks to the site and I will give you an answer. Otherwise get a life.
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I dont care what you think. You were completely silent when I took the time to answer your question about NW Partners. You are a mooch.
Donate 20 bucks to the site and I will give you an answer. Otherwise get a life.
so now am i supposed to come back with a "jab" on you and get thrown off the site ?, i bet you`d like that
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Boater,
Selective fishing (sport) for salmon isn't intended to restore or recover salmon. How would it?
http://www.ccapnw.org/ccawa-positions.pdf
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boater you forgot to add the names of all of the organizations that are saying the very same. NSIA, NMTA, PSA, RFA and the Salmon Mafia would be a few of those.
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Ahh now I see this thread was started as a stealth CCA bash. Why not start there to begin with?
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boater you forgot to add the names of all of the organizations that are saying the very same. NSIA, NMTA, PSA, RFA and the Salmon Mafia would be a few of those.
i guess fish northwest could be added to the list since there address is the same as the place that makes the fish tags and fish clipping machines, its all one big happy family
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Ahh now I see this thread was started as a stealth CCA bash. Why not start there to begin with?
well
Is it really a bash?... Or is it a valid question ?
Is every "qestion" addressed to the CCA always a "bash"?
Or are they questions that have not been answered?
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Ahh now I see this thread was started as a stealth CCA bash. Why not start there to begin with?
i was simply showing the difference of opinions of selective fishing, do you think selective fishing will help restore salmon if the esa take rate isnt lowered ?
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Don't know....maybe CFM could enlighten us?
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do you think selective fishing will help restore salmon if the esa take rate isnt lowered ?
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