Ephemera_danica
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Hello,
Sometimes I go for European sea bass (Dicentrarchus labrax) at the Dutch coast (North Sea).
Dutch Coast - Oosterschelde
European sea bass is like a baby of stiped bass. The average size is 3-4lb and the maximum size is about 8lb at the North Sea.
The lures we use are like that one you use for stiped bass, but not so big.
Most times we use stick baits and surface baits like Rapala X-Rap 10, Heddon Super Spook 5" and so on.
Sometimes we use Jigheads (1/2 to 3/4 oz.) with shads like Lunker City Salt Shaker 4.5" or Slug-Go.
The maximum lure weight is 1 oz. and the average weight is 1/2 oz.
I think the maximum line weight for a sea bass rod should be 16 or 17 lb. They are not so strong.
Now my question:
Is the Batson XST able to give surface lures and stick baits the right “walking the dog” action or are these XST steelhead blanks not the matching blanks for that type of fishing?
Is there some hope that Batson will offer a XST 17lb line weight 9'6" length and 1 or 1.25 or 1.5 oz. casting weight in the end of the year 2008 (I know that there is the new XST1085F)?
10' is too long for twitching lures and 9' would be too short for casting long range, probably.
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I have an additional question.
The Batson RX7 ISA1086F is easy to get here where I live (XST blanks I have to order in the USA).
Does anybody know that blank?
Do you think the ISA1086F would be to strong for European sea bass? I want to play with the fish and not only to pull it out of the water. I've read the ISA1086F is a King Salmon blank.
Is the ISA1086F suitable for surface baits (because of its action)?
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My last question 
What is the difference between ISA and IST blanks?
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I know this is a steelhead forum. Most times I fish with the fly rod for trout but sometimes for sea bass with lures.
I do not know a striper forum where the Batson team is active.
Thanks and regards,
Thilo
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hmitchel
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I can't help you with your questions but wanted to welcome you aboard. It's always nice to see photos of fish we don't get to see around here and those are some cool photos.
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Rainshadow
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Welcome to the board!
I highly recomend you check out the new RX7 IST1144 I'm sure you will find it suitable.
Contact my German distributer CMW at cweckesser@gmx.de
He may not know much about this blank because its so new but he places regulare orders and could easly have one on its way. If you have any further questions about any of Batson Products feel free to drop me a line. Best Regards, Karry Batson
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Karry Batson
Batson Enterprises Inc.
Ph: (877) 875-2381
Fax: (360) 683-3579
karry@batsonenterprises.com
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Ephemera_danica
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Hello Karry,
Thanks for your reply.
I know CMW and I also know Dieter W. (He is more the contact person for flyfishing).
Today I had a new idea and an additional question.
Would you say the IST1264F is just as well for my range of use like the new IST1144F if I would cut one feet of the butt?
If yes I could build two rods in one.
The first for surface plugging 9'6'' with short back grip.
The second 10'6'' with long back grip for long casting spoons for sea trout at the coast (for example).
I would look like a one feet long fighting butt.
(I also have the IST1265F 10'6'' but it is a little bit to strong. It is more a salmon rod).
Regards,
Thilo
Edited by Ephemera_danica (07/31/08 05:14 PM)
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Rainshadow
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I sent you some rod Recipes for your review. I use the 1264 for several difrent applications so would not be surprised if this will work for you. Remember though if you cut the blank you void your warranty. Best Regards, Karry Batson
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Karry Batson
Batson Enterprises Inc.
Ph: (877) 875-2381
Fax: (360) 683-3579
karry@batsonenterprises.com
www.batsonenterprises.com
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Ephemera_danica
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Hi Karry,
I got the sheets - thanks. I will not loose the warranty.
I could not believe that I now have to use 10 (!) Guides at a 9' spinning rod. I have the Batson spacing charts from April of 2008. Reading theses charts (04.2008) I would have to use 8 guides incl. tip top for the 9' spinning rod.
Things are changing.............
Asking after the sheets I had told, that I want to use a 18" rear grip for long casting.
If I now would use the IST1264F spacing chart the distance between the middle of my reel seat an the first guide would only be 20". That would look funny.
In my opinion that is big problem for rod building beginners.
I had seen a XST1264F wrapped like the spacing chart and fit with a 18" rear grip.
Regards,
Thilo
Edited by Ephemera_danica (08/01/08 02:18 PM)
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vangofishin
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not trying to complicate it but wouldn't you move the choke guide up the blank as you move your reel seat up . for a spinning rod I thought the guide placement was determined by the position of the seat and the size (hieght) of the reel . of course I haven't seen your spacing chart but just adding a little food for thought . I usually adjust my spacing to be right for each rod , reel size , handle length , rod length , whether I am using a manufacturer's chart as a starting point or not . And for a heavier rod 20" from center of seat to first guide doesn't sound right at all .
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Ephemera_danica
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Hi, some guys use the charts like being blind, I think.
I calculate the distance between reel seat and starting guide using the original spacing chart (12" rear grip).
At the new rod (18" rear grip) I now use the same distance from starting guide to reel seat.
The distances between the other guides I reduce percentage. 
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Rainshadow
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Yes simply a starting point. 22-25 inches from center of reel seat is the rule.
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Karry Batson
Batson Enterprises Inc.
Ph: (877) 875-2381
Fax: (360) 683-3579
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building a HS9001 right now with a 12in. handle on a casting rod. My first guide is choked way down to 20" from the center of the reel seat and looks sweet. The rod is loaded with guides, 11 total! I go by karry's rule myself, but i break it every once in awhile depending on the rod application!
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