camodrifter
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hey looking for some info on centerpin setups. what are the advantages? seems like a really cool way to fish and might possibly be thinking of getting into it!
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Drag free drift
No drag.... That meens you and the fish get to go at it 1:1
Casting can take some getting used to, lots of practice!
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has anyone tried centerpin in a downrigger? If so, how did you like/dislike? Just curious
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The downrigger kind of defeats the purpose for this type of reel. Sort of like using a fly reel in a downrigger. The center pin is a float reel, probably the best type on the market after you get used to it.
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When I go to BC for kings in August. There are a lot of people and guides that use those center pin fly reels that are one to one on downriggers. The person who takes me likes to use them to and we use Loomis gl2 spey rods with those Shimano reels. It's ok, but I would rather use a casting reel for kings. Some times we use a Bantam or I use a 6500. It is fun to have the direct drive feel on those big fish but they call them knuckle busters for a reason. I have only seen them in Canada, until about a year or two ago I saw a guy using one on Whidbey fishing the rip and doing a little casting. I have pics at home with how they look.
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So far I have seen 3 types of reels talked about here, centerpins for fishing rivers, fly reels and mooching reels. Which kind are you looking for?
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The ones I'm talking about are the Shimano mooching reels that are 1:1 and are just like a big fly reel with a little drag. just to clear up what im talking about, what are you talking about?
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I have the moocher and love it. It isn't a center pin like what camodrifter is asking about. The moocher can be used in a rod holder, no problem. Check this out for centerpin inf.
http://www.coastangler.com/fishing/centerpin_reels.shtml
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interesting info on the link. I think this is something that I may try to get into. I especily like the extra long rods that are available for use with a center pin.
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Another good site is questoutdoors.net
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I can see where a center pin reel could be a gas to use/fish with, etc. BUT why not use the long rod with a light level wind casting reel? You can 'free spool' these and they don't cost several hundred dollars for a 'good one.'
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I can see where a center pin reel could be a gas to use/fish with, etc. BUT why not use the long rod with a light level wind casting reel? You can 'free spool' these and they don't cost several hundred dollars for a 'good one.'
Fred
Why not just buy your fish at the store and hike beside the river instead? Cheaper that way too.
Its all part of the challenge and a quality cp will free spool better than a levelwind. Some people want the best gear they can have, for many that includes a high quality hand made centerpin reel.
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Quote:
fredaevans said:
I can see where a center pin reel could be a gas to use/fish with, etc. BUT why not use the long rod with a light level wind casting reel? You can 'free spool' these and they don't cost several hundred dollars for a 'good one.'
Fred
Well sure you can freespool these, but centerpin reels are always in freespool. Fred, you flyfish, right? It's like someone saying "why don't you fly fish on a baitcaster with a bobber?".
I personally am not into the centerpin reels and my canadian fishing buddy from the GL area has been spooled and broken off too many times in front of me for me to ever use it on any river that doesn't have room to play a fish without risk of running into a logjam.
However at one time I did seriously consider buying a setup. I am always interested in trying new ways of catching steelhead and would try it if a fishing buddy had an extra setup and knew a river ideal for it. 
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You Centre Pin 
Currently looking for a set-up. Looks like fun. Only down side, the quality stuff is PRICEY!!!!
Sage 3113 $600
Milner Talisman $600
Landing your first steelier on a Crntre Pin- PICELESS
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Hey hog;you don't have to break the bank for quality gear.Your paying for the "label" with Sage and Milner.Check the top and bottom pics in my "not a Vedder report" $200 Lamiglass pin rod and a $300 Raven Classic reel.Maybe not top of the line, but definitely quality.
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fishhog
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Excellent point there Spoon.
The names & models I mentioned were what was recommended to me. I think it was a conspiracy of a buddy of mine to seperate me from my $$$
I know there's some cheaper set-ups out there at similar quality. I know I can pick up an Islander reel for less and the reel you mentioned.
Turns out, the 3113LB rod he mentioned, is harder to find than a woman, that will bring a girlfriend home from the bar. The MB is the new model but from what I've been told, is heavier.
I'll check out the Lami rod. Thanks for the tip!!!!!
Does Loomis make a decent pin rod spoon ?
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Hog:It is hard to find someone willing to part with their Sage.From what I understand the rod code is first # is the power(3) then the length 11'-3" the L is for light the M for medium.If followed by a B it is the older brown blank opposed to the newer green.They say the action of the older brown is better.Most guys seem to prefer a slower action rod that bends down to the cork.My Lami is a 10'-6" medium heavy rated 10#-20# with some backbone in the bottom.As far as I know Loomis does make a pin rod but have no idea as to actions or price.Best to go to the store and shake some sticks to compare.Check some board members here.At one time 98043 had some rods/setups for sale.
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fishhog
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Yeah, my "friend" said they were the rod of choice, but a little tricky to find one.
I'm not sold on buying a Sage. I know there a decent rods out there for less dough.
My problem with going and shaking a stick is I've never cast a pin set-up, so it's kind of hard to know what feels right. Which is why I rely on input from others.
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I would stick with a rod action that you are used to using.If you're used to a faster(stiffer) action(or fish mostly big water),then you might feel your getting your butt kicked with a slower (softer)one.Vice versa a stiffer rod might feel like too much of a "meat stick" if you are used to a soft one.I also have a softer set-up consisting of a slow action shimano convergance medium power rated at 10#-20# with an Avon Royal Supreme reel(my starter set-up)If your coming up to fish the Wack anytime soon,I'd be willing to meet up with you and let you try a few casts to compare the two.
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Spoon - Thanks for the offer. I haven't got a liscense in BC yet, and it's not looking like I will this year. But if things change, I'll pm ya or something.
Still want to do some steelheading, in spite of the Tommy being closed.
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