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So a few weeks ago, I was fishing the lower Hump with some good success on Kings and CoHo. I'm not sure how many of you have had the opportunity, but it's a nice little stretch of water. The problem is, the lower section is where the tribal nets are. Now there are a handful of nets, that have been left behind. SuperFly told me some of them have been there for years.
This one in particular, is still continuing to be a fish killer. I was on the Hump 4 times during this week that I fished down there. The 1st two days, I didn't see anything in it, however the third time I was floating down and stopped to fish this area, I noticed Fresh/DEAD CoHo caught up in the Net. I was there 3 days earlier and there where no fish, now I counted 12...  This is pure Crap... The fact that the owners of these fish killers are not held accountable and there is no penalty for leaving discarded nest in the rivers is ridiculous. If you can't pin it on an individual, then the Tribal Leaders and Fish Managers should be held accountable and the State should have Federal Support to impose Fines. I took some pic's just to let folks see what I'm talking about and I am forwarding these photo's on to CCA and some others who may hopefully have some concern.
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I know this is not the first time or the only river that this is allowed to happen. However, given the status of most of our Fisheries, it's time the State stands up for something that needs to be delt with and do something about it. I am not advocating that the State be on the hook for net removal, similar to the Ghost net problem in the Sound. The Tribes need to Clean up their own mess and it's time they are held accountable to do so...
FireFish Out... 
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NFStillyFisher
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Lower Nooksack is the same way, nets have been left everywhere and no one cares to clean it up. Did a community service project in college pulling the nets out for extra credit. It was a pain but we got a huge load of nets out. Unfortunately the next salmon season brought a new mess of abandoned nets. It is our responsibility to do something we care about the rivers. Those pictures could be helpful.
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I saw that same net you did FireFish. The big float has some numbers on it. Wish I had my camera that day. It was plugged with chrome bright coho. I cut some out that were easily accessed and of the 5 I did get out 4 were wild fish.
I'd think with that bouy number the quinaults would know who's net it is.
It could have been removed with some work in a sled when the water was low.
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Have you contacted the Chehalis Tribe??? I would. I bet they can figure out how to get them removed. http://www.chehalistribe.org/contact/index.php
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the chehalis tribe has nothing to do with the hump.
the only place they can fish is on the rez and their catch counts with the non indian catch. the quinaults rule the chehalis and the hump
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AuntyM
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My bad. For some reason, I had "Chehalis River" in the back of my mind.
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Call Doug Washburn at the QDNR building. Tell him about where the net is and I'm sure he'll send an officer out 360.276.8211 and ask for Doug Washburn. Nobody wins in this type of situation.
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thanks
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Call Doug Washburn at the QDNR building. Tell him about where the net is and I'm sure he'll send an officer out 360.276.8211 and ask for Doug Washburn. Nobody wins in this type of situation.
Really!?!?!?
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Call Doug Washburn at the QDNR building. Tell him about where the net is and I'm sure he'll send an officer out 360.276.8211 and ask for Doug Washburn. Nobody wins in this type of situation.
Not sure I follow the last part of that statement, "Nobody wins in this type of situation".
Potter, perhaps you could enlighten me as to what that means exactly. The way I see it, if it wasn't an accepted past practice for Tribal Fishermen to leave discarded nets in many, many, rivers in the State of Washington, with no penalties or accountability, we would have one less problem to worry about, as far as negative impacts to our returning Salmon & Steelhead. I'm not saying it's the cure all, but it's an obvious CONTROLABLE MEASURE, that could and would make a difference, if somebody from the Tribes side, ie; Quinaults, ever gave a Shiat....
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That was one post deleted. Keep it civil. Thanks. 
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Firefish thanks for the effort to ge this out of the river. Potter thanks for the info to help get this resolved.
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Does anyone know of phone numbers we can call on similar issues on other rivers, Nisqually, Skook., etc?
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We'll see how the co managers respond. Or not.
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Sickening images for sure.
Its bad enough that non-selective (in terms of wild/hatchery fish) nets are being used but to allow them to keep on killing with no purpose whatsoever is just completely irresponsible and wrong on so many levels. Ghost nets in a river.... C'MON!
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Good running in to you today Shawn and spending a little time fishing with ya ... Always enjoy getting out and enjoying the fruits of our labors in the Gray's Harbor Tribs...
FireFish Out...
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One hook up after you left, then a mad dash to GH CCA meeting. We'll have to do it again sometime.
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When I have found derelict nets, they always had a guys name on them. I would Google their phone number and call them personally. In every case, they thanked me and promptly removed them.
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Fizzzle, I don't get into alot of the controversy up here since I am fairly new to this area, but I do have a question. How do you know they promptly removed the nets? If you fish that often, let me know when you have a seat and I am willing to tag along.
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