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Favorite halibut baits new
      #413505 - 05/08/11 10:32 PM

What do you like to use? Bait and scent. I am working in the bait lab on a killer Butt scent additives and thought I might as well be up to speed on the top secret stuff.

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: Marty]
      #413508 - 05/09/11 06:28 AM

I've when to my billfold as I've only got it from the fish counter. Was told salmon belly's, shad strips(I have some whole shad):) squid? Hope you do well out there this year.

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: Will fish for food]
      #413513 - 05/09/11 10:42 AM

Black label Herring covered with a double glow hoochie. All the above baits work too. I know guys who swear Shad beats everything if you can get them fresh. Makes a mess of your boat with the scales though.

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: Trouthead]
      #413523 - 05/09/11 07:31 PM

Is shad considered a game fish?

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: BigTrout15]
      #413525 - 05/09/11 09:55 PM

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: BigTrout15]
      #413526 - 05/10/11 12:07 AM


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Is shad considered a game fish?




shad is legally defined as a "food fish"

why do you ask?

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: Baitsoaker]
      #413533 - 05/10/11 11:58 AM

Pink salmon belly strip on a 24 ounce jig head with a white halibut grub was money for the big boys up in AK!

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: thesteelheadkid]
      #413534 - 05/10/11 05:16 PM

I guess the regs don’t say anything on marine area bait rules unlike the freshwater section. I have heard it from someone arguing with me that it was unlawful to fish with game fish as bait. But even the freshwater bait rules only state no live aquatic animals. Would kokanee as bait be found upon?

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: BigTrout15]
      #413536 - 05/10/11 05:51 PM

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I guess the regs don’t say anything on marine area bait rules unlike the freshwater section. I have heard it from someone arguing with me that it was unlawful to fish with game fish as bait. But even the freshwater bait rules only state no live aquatic animals. Would kokanee as bait be found upon?




This is one of the most misunderstood rules in the books.

The rules prohibit only the use of "live fish for gamefish bait."

The rules don't say "it is illegal to use gamefish for bait."

So long as its dead, you can use any fish for bait when targeting gamefish. For saltwater, live or dead fish for bait are legal.

For kokes used for bait:

illegal if the koke is live and used for bait to target gamefish

legal if the koke is dead and used for bait to target gamefish

legal if the koke is live or dead, and used for bait to target foodfish (like halibut)

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: Baitsoaker]
      #413537 - 05/10/11 08:15 PM

Thats how I enturpreted the regs to. I tried to argue that one for a bit but i gave up becuase it was pointless. But yea iv used kokes for bait and caugh halis. Sometimes i get fancy and inject them with UV butt juice

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: Marty]
      #413543 - 05/10/11 10:48 PM

Foot long octopus.

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: Gooose]
      #413546 - 05/10/11 11:11 PM

Got me a 4 foot octopus while but fishin on friday! He got put the box. Now he's cut up in 8-10 inch sections in the freezer. Big butt bait, oh yeah!

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: CastawayChris]
      #413586 - 05/12/11 04:07 PM

A friend is complaining "There is no bait due to the Japanese Earthquake".

I said Huh???

Was at one of the bait sellers today. No squid or octopus. He had lots of big herring and CA Mackeral about a foot long.

So maybe the friend was half right. Does the squid and octopus bait come from Japan??

Anyone tried Mackeral?

Guess it is time to hit the tidepools on a minus tide and turn over rocks.

I have caught more halibut on jigs than bait, so I am no bait expert.

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: RetroMan]
      #413587 - 05/12/11 05:15 PM

I get octopus to but id rather use a foot long squid.

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: BigTrout15]
      #413597 - 05/12/11 07:43 PM

COCKTAIL'S all the way! Footlong Squid+purple or black label=

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: BigTrout15]
      #413608 - 05/13/11 05:48 PM

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I get octopus to but id rather use a foot long squid.




First halibut I caught was on a squid about 10 inches long. Got a photo somewhere, will try to find it and scan & post.

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: RetroMan]
      #422955 - 09/07/12 04:34 PM

My number one halibut bait in Alaska was salmon heads, tails also work, but less so for some reason. Big bait for big fish. 50-60 lb Lings will eat them too.

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: Marty]
      #422974 - 09/09/12 04:57 PM

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What do you like to use? Bait and scent. I am working in the bait lab on a killer Butt scent additives and thought I might as well be up to speed on the top secret stuff.





This one was caught August 16, 2012. By my friend in Edna Bay, Alaska. Bait was a one pound chunk of Pink Salmon. 220 pounds gutted qutted and gilled. Contrary to most sayings concerning large halibut, he said it tasted very good.

Same guy caught a 90 the day before, same bait, Pink Salmon chunk..

Everybody in Edna Bay had fresh halibut for dinner!




I was at a house warming here in PA last night, one of the guests was a Alaska commercial fisherman (trolling and longline). He puts out 6 miles of longline for halibut during the season and only uses Pink Salmon for bait. Chops the salmon into chunks with a cleaver, even uses the heads.

So Marty, time to render down some pinks for scent!

Biggest halibut I caught here in PA was 105 pounds on a fresh squid. Might render some squid juice with the pink salmon oil.

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: RetroMan]
      #422975 - 09/09/12 05:06 PM

So Marty did you ever come up with that scent? There is one on the market now that has salmon, squid and crab essence. Might just be the ticket.

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: RetroMan]
      #422977 - 09/09/12 11:21 PM

I didn't come up with a winner this year, but did find what I am not going to use anymore. Was a frustrating year with boat issues getting in way of my trials. The salmon are a favorite for sure.. good reports from the use of king pieces too. Pink is easy and cheap bait.
Brother use to longline and recommended some baits but they are not available at the local shops.
Those three you you mention there are highly rated in studies for feeding. I need to review and regroup for my next scent trials.

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: Marty]
      #422989 - 09/10/12 06:47 PM

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I didn't come up with a winner this year, but did find what I am not going to use anymore. Was a frustrating year with boat issues getting in way of my trials. The salmon are a favorite for sure.. good reports from the use of king pieces too. Pink is easy and cheap bait.
Brother use to longline and recommended some baits but they are not available at the local shops.
Those three you you mention there are highly rated in studies for feeding. I need to review and regroup for my next scent trials.





Think Pink Eh?

Back in the good old days I caught several on one of Norm's 6 ounce jigs, dressed with a red hootchie. And a few on 6 inch Tomics while trolling for chinook with the downriggers. So sight is important also: If they see it they will grab it. Scent just gives the halibut something else to go for and gives the angler an edge.

The big Safeway has blocks of frozen squid, I grabbed a couple yesterday and stashed in the bait freezer.

When the season gets closer, let me know if you need a ride.

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: Marty]
      #422992 - 09/11/12 05:51 PM

I've heard tuna bellies are great. I have a bunch in the freezer and about 6-8 on ice right now if anyone wants them. You can have the fresh ones. Ill check tomorrow. The first ill take it gets it. I live in Graham.

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: bullshooter]
      #422993 - 09/11/12 07:28 PM

From watching some of Charlie Whites videos you can see the halibuts chase sinkers... kind of fun to watch the old shows. Halibut do have good sniffers, way more dialed in than there taste buds. They can detect down to one part per 10 million... Not sure how big a swimming pool that is

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: Marty]
      #423103 - 09/21/12 12:54 PM

I stumbled across a Norway fishing tackle site a few days ago, has videos of halibut following trolled lures, likely behind a downrigger. Shallow water around 30 feet deep. Lure was a big swimbait on a jig head. Red/orange color.

The key thing I noted was short striking: The 'butt grabbed the tail of the swim bait several times before it got a good bite well forward on the lure and was hooked.

So this tells me to have a stinger hook back in the tail of the bait.

This was about a 70 to 80 pound halibut. Alantic halibut get as big as the Pacific Halibut. I have seen photos of Atlantic Halibut over 500 pounds.

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: RetroMan]
      #423104 - 09/21/12 07:18 PM

Same in videos I saw with the short strikers

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Re: Favorite halibut baits new [Re: Marty]
      #423106 - 09/22/12 07:06 AM

Same company makes some 16 inch long soft jigs with lead heads that are killers on Atlantic halibut.

Gets a guy to thinking that the jigs and baits we use are too small!!!

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Re: Favorite halibut baits [Re: RetroMan]
      #423434 - 10/30/12 06:58 PM

Yep...mackerel worked just fine this spring...good and oily. Also used whole squid (10-14"). All lines went down with a synthetic backup of some sort, in case the bait got stripped. Another trick I used was to wrap the shank of the big trebles (or stuff the heads of the artificial squids) with strips of that oil absorbant pad made from duck feathers, which got soaked with UV herring oil. The pad holds the oil like a vise so it doesn't wash out....four 600' drops, was still loaded.

Saving a load of salmon heads for next spring, and am hoping to try a whole pink as well.


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