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I have 78 shortbed 4x4 with dual shocks (factory)and a C-6 behind a 400.
Problem is my motor is starting to get tried and I'm thinkin of going in another direction,perhaps a built 302,I'd have to change trannies.
a big block maybe 460 or a 390.
I don't tow much,just hunt and fish.
anyone have a idea,that won't cost me an arm and a leg.
Oh BTW don't say buy a Chevy,I tried that once......once ![[Big Grin]](images/icons/grin.gif) ...thanks Os
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You gotta love Fords! I tried a chevy once also, I will never go back. If you decide to go with the 302 and want to build it yourself, I have a couple blocks, heads, and manifolds you can have real cheap. I mean cheap! good luck on the project.
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Thanks Bux
I'm really torn between the 302 and a big block.
What years are you're blocks? are the maniflods stock?
I'd really like to add fuel injection if I go with the 302,maybe one out of a newer mustang,just don't want all the puter crap,so I'll probably stay with a carb.
First things first,I need to change out the steering wheel .....she's hammered.
I got an catalog thru www.lmctruck.com they carry a ton of great hard to find parts.
I don't want to go with the stock wheel,I know an old three spoke out of a mustangII or capri will fit also,(did it in my old 76 1 ton)
keep the faith............Os
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1 block from an 86 1 ton. the other block from an 84? LTD. I believe all parts are stock.
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O's,
I would stay away from a 302. I'd rather have a 300 six before a 302. Stay with the big block. Besides your fuel mileage will be about the same and you'll have more power.
My 2 cents.
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Dog the 300 six is Ok,but I feel I can build a pretty healthy 302.If I had my choice I'd go for a built 390 over the 460,just because my truck is a short bed 1/2 ton,I just don't need all that horse power.heck if I wanted shear horses,A buddy of mine has a 428 police interceptor that would do the trick..he did offer it ![[Wink]](images/icons/wink.gif) thanks..Os
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O's I had a 302 boss motor years ago in a truck..It was BUILT and had plenty of ponies...But I will have to say better to go with the big block since you would have to change trannie out to change...390 or 360 has lots of power stock for a fishin rig and will outlast the built motor...The millage would be close to the same too... Kev
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Big Block..... 4 sure!!
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O's Probably the most inexpensive way to go is to stay with the same motor set-up you have. The other option would be to go with a 351M same block as the 400. Anytime you start changing from one motor size to another you will most likely have to change motor mount positioning which can be a real pain. And if you went with a big block it would also be necessary to change out radiators and who knows what else.
Price for a long block 351M or 400 is $1195.00 with a $350.00 core charge. If your core is good you get the $350.00 back. This price is thru NAPA
P.S. Rember the KISS factor
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Hi Osprey,
I wouldn't step down to a 302, nice engine but it would take a lot of work to install from your current 400, same issue's with a 390. And moving up to a 429/460 would be great because they bolt up to the C6 perfectly, but the rest of the conversion is in the $500 to $1000 ballpark. I would stick with the 400 and put a mild (rv) cam and a 4 barrel (Edelbrock, Carter). That should yield you about 250 hp and a ton of torque as well as a very reliable engine. I have a 78 Bronco with a rebuilt 400 (stepped up from a 351M, same engine but .5" shorter stroke) and I love it. It is getting a little tired and considered a 460 but will stay with the 400.
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Thanks for the ideas Guys,I have solved the motor mount problem if I go with the 390.He has done the conversion as well.
I Just don't know if a 400 is worth rebuiding I guess ![[shrug]](graemlins/shrug.gif)
She's gettin tired but aint givin up ..yet
Just Like a Ford .......Os
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429 or 460??????heck maybe a 428....
which is a better truck engine
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300 straight six. Its the perfect motor for that pickup unless you want/need lots of horsepower. They can be built pretty strong, a 390cfm four barrel, header and a cam and youll be set. More usable torque for a pickup than a 302, and better milage, better life too. The 351M/400M are good motors for power, if you put in a new can, and exhuast, but milage sucks. I have a 30 horse 351M in my 79 shortbed, and if i had my choice, id get the 300 six instead. 7 mpg makes it too expensive to drive.
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Osprey go with the 429
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The six is out of the question..... 
Thanks Caveman,I assumed for torque the 460 (same block as 429)with the longer stroke would make a better truck engine,considering the mileage would be about the same.
Just found last night my neighbor is bulding a 351 Cleveland Cobra Jet for 70 a Mach 1#.The "Stang" still has the original 302(not a boss)which I can pick up easy.
I'm trying to improve my mileage mostly.
The sweet sound of a healty Ford small block is such music  ....decisions ......decisions....Os
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The only wise choice is the 460
I have 460's in both my fords, 80 Bronco and 95 Bronco.
A 390 will NOT compare to a 460
Go here for more help
www.pirate4x4.com under the ford section...
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