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Nope! No "high and dry" morals. I didn't SAY I had any morals. Just said that on CERTAIN stretches of water, I just use dry flies (just out of respect to some ancient anglers).Yeah, I do use spinning and bait casters on occasion elsewhere. You see, I am just honest, law-abiding, and don't try to hide behind any "image"!
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Sounds like you'll need hip waders just to slog past the front door, Hal... Ever think that if the fly is a secret, it may be because nobody ever caught a fish on it?
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Gus, I didn't know you knew Hal??? Or should I say: know Hal by his reputation?
 
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Sounds like you'll need hip waders just to slog past the front door, Hal... Ever think that if the fly is a secret, it may be because nobody ever caught a fish on it?
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aaahhhh Fred... I know Hal knows YOU, my friend! See you tomorrow, Rain, shine or snow flurries for breakfast. 
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The new secret flies are in my tying desk and will serve as prototypes for the winter tying. BTW, two of these patterns has already been sent to two of the esteemed members talking about me in this thread. I think you know who you are. So you alreadyhave two of them. Actually I developed one of these patterns two years ago but I did not want to show off in front of all the other tyers there last night. Might hurt my FF image etc... LOL
Next week at the Fly Jam is guide streamer patterns.
Love my fly shop owner great fellow he takes care of his good customers.
Hey Fred, yes I have known Gus for the last year, you see Fred you never know in the internet FF world who knows who. I have contacts across the internet FF world. LOL
Holiday greetings to all.
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Funny... and Hal, looks like Neil may be coming to our little breakfast, too! I'll bring the digicam and post mugs to the Southern Oregon board.
Scary. Maybe I should be bringing the hippers tomorrow!  
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I'm jealeous, Neil, Fred, and Gus rogue anglers at a FF breakfast. Say hellow to Neil and tell him I have some FF trivia questions that need answers over here. I'm about ready to submit them to the master FF historian emeritus...
Whatever Fred says about me is only half true at most I swear ! LOL
Enjoy.
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summed it up.
:>)
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Well I might be able to say Spey fishing but I doubt if I are one anymore. I've picked up a couple of bad habits the last three times that I've been out and can't seem to get past them. And it's getting worse. I feel that maybe I'll just go back to the Single hander and forget about the Spey thing altogether for a while.
On another note I did get to try out one of those Cortland Spey rods. A 13'er 8/9. It's a 5 piece, but as I said my casting sucks. So I don't know if it is good or not but you can't beat the price $200.00
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Thats exactly what I am in the market for a 13 'er 8/9 weight. My fly shop owner is trying to sell me a $ 600 Sharpes of Aberdeen spey rod.
I hate buying fly rods blind without even touching them before I pay for them.
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Hal - what about your "one true love", you know, Miss 5120??? Or did she throw you by the wayside???
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Thats # 2 on the list now after careful analysis of my needs the 8/9 weight is now # 1 except I am not sure who she is yet.
Is it Ms. Lamiglass, Loop, CND, Sharpes of Aberdeen, Meiser, I just don't know. Have to look at the vendors during the mid west fly show the first week in January.
Then it may be time to start another thread. "I am in love again but this time its really for real".
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Oh, no! I can't stand it. Jerry and Marty, if he starts on another "true love", shut him off QUICKLY! Last time it took him months... and he started hitting the sauce, too! He CLAIMED it was Merlot he was drinking, but I think it was cheap Muscatel. And now, he has the unmitigated gall to tell us that his ex-"dream rod" is now "Number 2"! Hours and hours he agonized over his "dream rod", and he dragged it on for month after month.
To make it worse, he never actually spent the money for the rod (his wife won't let him!). So he never owned or even caught a fish on it.
And, after all that, he is starting again!
But don't believe me - Fred can verify all of this.
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Jerry, Can we get those threads transferred to this board, or at least put up a link ? I see they are sitting dormant over there.
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Which threads Hal? You can post any links you want. Just use the URL button when you hit response and paste link in. Or you can simply put it in. Either way.
Ok Bob, will take it into consideration. LOL.
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Oh, oh.... No, Jerry! Don't let him do it! The first set of tear jerkers got so big that they had to shut the thread off, and restart it (Like Volume 1 and Volume 2!)
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LOL Bob. I'm a big boy. Plus, I just love those love novels. I like a good cry every now and then. 
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Yeah - but Hal whimpers and whines a lot - worse than a little kid!  
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Ok, ok. I don't want to be responsible for shorting out his keyboard thanks to all the tears. Guess I won't ask for it. Hate to be responsible for ruining his new computer.
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fly forum post
Cool day, lot of very cool guys.
:>)
Now, cut this thread off and move on.
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Beautiful! Good way to stop this nonsense and get this thread back on subject, Fred!
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Well you can do what ever you want as now there is one less spey caster out there. I decided that with all of the problems that I have been having lately that I have decided to put the spey thing on the shelf for a while. And just do the one handed rod thing. I sure hope after beating myself up with the spey rod that I can still do the one handed thing.I'm not going to quit it. Just putting it on the back burner until I feel like I can try it again. Besides most of the rivers that I fish I can use the smaller rod.
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Here where I live, most of the streams are too small for a spey. What I have is an 11'3" "single-handed" spey rod that I use about half the time, and that is so I can mend line better than with a 9 or 9 1/2 foot rod. But at least the other half the time, the streams' size dictates that I use a 9' single hander.
I don't want or need "social status" - I just want to catch fish! And the easiest way possible based on conditions.
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..er's up there.
Ser., if you've got problems call Aaron Reimer, at the Spey Shop in Carnation, WA. He's one hell of a nice man, and he and Jack Cook, are Excellet! instructors.
One hour with someone whose a good teacher is worth 10 hours with someone whose a good caster.
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Fred, that's who oldman (Jim) has been working with. I do believe he's been working with Aaron.
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I was having problems with the lift and the "D" loop. I got the problem with the lift worked out but still having problems with the "D" loop. I tend to over power the loop and I end up with over hand casting.
Yes I've been working with Aaron. I just seem that I'm being pulled in two different directions on this spey thing and I'm not to sure that I want to go that way. So I've decided to just put it up for awhile and go back to the one handed rod with which I'm more at ease with.
Now if I could just get this double haul done right.......................................................... 
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Jerry, Can we get those threads transferred to this board, or at least put up a link ? I see they are sitting dormant over there.
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Trust me, this is more common than you'd think. Think of a spey rod as a very long lever. Very little pressure on one end can move a lot on the other ... if you let the tool do the work.
SLOW DOWN and 'enjoy the ride.' The shorter the cast, the less the 'omph' you need to put in the cast from start to finish. A great example of 'am I overpowering' the cast is the snake roll. If you are, you'll end up with the line wrapped around your head like a big slinkey.
Think of casting as making love to a beautiful woman; do you really want to be 'done' in 15 seconds?
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LOL. I agree fred on how to power the rod. LOL. I had same problem (self taught ughhhhhhh). I had read that to try and cast with your opposite hand (that was on Dana's original MSN speypages board years ago). WOW, I had instant distance. But fealt ackward, so slowed my cast way down. So, would have to stop myself and slow down on my normal casting side (which is good to be able to speycast both arms anyways in my thinking). Sometimes I do speed up out of habit, and pay for it. LOL. Will be working with Aaron once I'm able. He's gonna show me how to do a speycast with my bum shoulder (side arm cast I do believe).
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I'm just a stubborn mule and I'm going to take a rest on spey casting for a while. I will get back to it when I feel the time is right. And right now it is not the time. So please don't tell me to get back up on that horse as I'm tired of falling off of it. And this thread is too long and we should have a volume II. It takes me forever to get on it and about twice as long to post. So how's about it SH69.
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