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LOL FJ. Whatcha trying to do? Start trouble here??? Man, do I need to give you da boot?
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Them darn gear guys, always trying to start stuff
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LOL, bad enough I get it that I'm a "gear guy" running the fly area. Now I got a gear guy starting stuff. Sheesh, I never win.
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I thought this was going to be "one of those" threads. Few things in fishing piss me off more than flyfishing elitists. I fish about 50/50 flies and gear.
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So, what's wrong with gear guys? When I fish the Lake Ontario "surf", yeah, I take my fly gear, in case the fish are in close, but yeah, I also take my "insurance" (long-range gear). Some guys just can't be happy without taking swipes at another guy's fun, that's all!
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Yeah, it's just FJ starting stuff. Sheesh, and a mod too, to boot. Gonna have to talk to Marty about banning him for flaming here.
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I am invoking my rights under the 5th amendment for this
thread.
"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."
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BobK
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Dazzle 'em with verbage!
Hal, why don't you just say it in plain English?
(Ever notice how similar "lawyer" and "liar" sound???) 
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Plain english, hmm now what is exactly is that ?

BG
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define Plain.
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Goodbye.
mmm
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Fish Jesus
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I was joking MMM...please stay!
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Yes so was I please come back.
Actually I like gear fishers and have found them to be nicer fellows than a lot of the fly fishing types I run into on the rivers.
Its america, fish the way you like, I served four years defending that right, and cherish the freedoms we have because believe me they do not exist in a lot of countries like we have them here when it comes to fishing as well as all of the other freedoms we enjoy.

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MMM, don't leave. Damned you FJ, trying to run off my guys. Sheesh. Gonna have Marty put you on a time out for sure now. Sheesh. Come on MMM, even did a special fly tutorial just for you. Please come back.
Gotta go do some quality control now, like ban FJ from the forum.
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fly guys interact here on the upper Rogue. Large part of the fall is fly fishing only on the top 30 miles of the river, but you can use a drift rod/mono and a float. Fly(s) can be weighted, but no extra lead below the float.
For the most part "they" co-exist very well. Major difference (and what seems to tick the fly rodders off) is the gear guy will "camp" in one spot on a run and stay there for hours on end. Little if any movement down a drift.
What ticks off the gear guys (rest of the open season) are fly guys who don't/can't control their fly lines when they're around drift gear. This is one of the major benee's of using a spey rod. You have tremendous line control even in the middle of a group/across from fellows chucking 2 oz of lead and 10' leaders. (Big time thing when the spring kings are running.)
Once they cast, that's it. They have zero control short of reeling in their lines. With a hard upstream mend I can stop my line dead out to about 70 feet. They drift by, I continue with mine. Couple of goes of this and we have 'harmoney' on the river.
Rather doubt I 'tangle' lines more than once or twice during a full day ... and it's my fault. Usually the problem was loosing site (sun angle, lack of attention, etc.)of other fellows line going into the water.
fae
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I doubt it's the sun angle that makes you lose site of your line during the summer king run. It's lack of attention. I know about that slot you fish that there's a bunch of sexy co-eds in their skimpy string bikinis who lounge across the way. You lose control of the fly and try a new "wet fly swing" LOL
Forgive me Joan, I'm just kidding. Let Fred come out to play. I'm harmless, I promise.
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Fish Jesus
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Does anyone take exception to Jerry calling everyone "his guys"? 
They seem pretty independent there Jer.
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Well, it's better then calling them my "mates". We aren't in England, so makes a big difference.
Doubt they mind. If they do, I hope they'd tell me. But most of the people I call "my guys" are one's that have I have posted with on 4 or so fly boards. So, not like I'm calling them anything bad. But a crew that has been together awhile.
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Hey, Fred,
FYI, actually increasing "age" doesn't exactly do much to help our eyesight, you know.
So, in case of bikini-clad sunbathing "co-eds", I generally carry a pair of compact binoculars. Really aids the vision, if you know what I mean!
(A gal once called me a "dirty old man". I responded, "What do you mean, OLD! Who you callin' old!") 
Us "seniors" gotta keep passing these tips along. That way, we can't be cut out of all the fun!
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Hey Bobk I found some compact camoflauged binocs ($10) at Walmarts hunting department last week along with some Merino wool socks for $ 7. The binocs are going to come in handy as the eye candy goes by in the canoes and LM beaches while surf fishing. Problem is I already have my lanyard, sun glasses, digital camera, hanging around my neck while FF. Adding the binoculars may be too much, I could hang myself out there on something !
I wonder how many pounds I carry around my neck and in the fly fishing vest /
This is getting way out of control, too much stuff.
Hey Jerry you can call me "your guy" as long as we understand it is for FF subjects only.
LOL

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LOL
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Eye Candy? What exactly is that? 
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It's mouth candy you'd get shot for eating. So you gotta let your eyes have it.
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The "eye candy" is not existent during fall and winter steelheading season which is when I do the majority of my fishing.

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See, Hal -
It's like I keep telling you. That's why you should keep fly fishing for stream trout. There are lots of interesting sights out there, and sometimes the scenery is VERY special.
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Yeah,but it's no good for an old mans eyes as it gets the mind wandering and your wife tells you no,not ever,never. 
Jim to the wife.
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BobK
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Yeah, Jim - I've got one of those, too! Talk about a "wet blanket"!
BobK (She's the one in green!)
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