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Grouse hunting and Spey fishing new
      #78264 - 10/06/03 02:02 PM

Thought I had a good time yesterday when I got two blue grouse up between skykomish and index, but oh man, I had good time today. I was on the hunt by 7:30 this morning. It was over by 9. I had followed a ridge out to the end of a real nice saddle that overlooked clear cuts on either side. I just stood their and marveled at the scenery from 4000 plus feet and looking for movement. On the way back, there were two blues right in the trail I had just walked down. They lined up for me and I got both with one shot. Could not frickin' believe it. I had missed one yesterday and was now even with birds vs. rounds spent. Took them back up to the Jeep and thought, you know those birds were all in a covey yesterday. I hadn't even looked around for any others. Went back down there and up popped this fat ruffed. He flew behind a tree before I could acquire a target. Walked around until I could find him and there he was looking at me like I was crazy. Bagged him too and quit. Hauled butt out of there and made it to big eddy on the skykomish by 10 am. I had this idea about my knew Salar Spey rod. I have a 8/9/10 line with the 30 foot middle section or upgrade. It would put that line into 780 grain class, which was perfect for it. Started tossing it and the belly kept dropping before the spawning purple spey could lay out on the water. Then I thought, wonder if that middle section is tapered and I put it on backwards. Switched it around and I had a SPEY CANNON! It was great. I was all over that water. But no fish. Can't have everything I guess. Quit for the day at 12 noon. Too Kewl!

Went home and started cleaning all five birds. Think I'll field clean them next time. The wind had picked up and there was a cloud of feathers blowing around my apartment. Then all the neighbors came out to check out the feathers. Kind of grossed them out and I'm going to have to practice skinning them grouse. That is some thin skin. I just plucked out what I thought were the most usable feathers and put them in a baggie with borax. Really wanted to dry the skin on some plywood, but it was hard to do with an audience. Maybe I'll have to use larger shot than #6 too. Couldn't find it all in the meat. By the time I was done I had neighbors puking, but I got some great meat to eat and feathers for fly tying.

Since I didn't clean them right away, I think I'll smoke them up. My dad had given me his smoker and haven't used it yet. Besides, my neighbors could really use the education. Mom says you can make a stew with them, but you have to cook the older ones longer. She said, since you didn't ask 'em how old they were before you shot 'em, you'll never know how long to cook 'em.

I need more birds to practice skinning and curing for fly tying.


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Re: Grouse hunting and Spey fishing new [Re: Mattzoid]
      #78315 - 10/06/03 06:26 PM

Congrats Matt, sounds like you had a great day. Glad to see you back on here too. That's called a double blessing.

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Re: Grouse hunting and Spey fishing new [Re: Steelheader69]
      #78394 - 10/07/03 05:19 AM

Hey Matt, hows that 5120-4 working out you know the one "I'm think I'm in love with for real" from Fly Talk.

Sounds like you had a nice day bird hunting and steelhead fly fishing in the same day, I have never done that but could in Michigan.

Glad to see you over here, help us keep the Old Man in order.

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Re: Grouse hunting and Spey fishing new [Re: Black_Ghost]
      #78421 - 10/07/03 11:52 AM

Old man needs to be kept in his place.

That 5120 is a smoking rod. Simon from Rio told me they are going to make the 5/6 wincutter with tips so I'm waiting on that. Been messing around with shooting heads for that rod while I'm waiting. Have to keep them in the 380 grain range. Haven't done to much trout fishing with it since the Salmon have come into the Sound.

My latest true love is the CND specialist series. Just picked up the 15'6" Salar. That Spey rod puts everything else to shame. I've graduated to the big belly lines with that rod.

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Re: Grouse hunting and Spey fishing new [Re: Mattzoid]
      #78424 - 10/07/03 12:14 PM

Not sure if I casted that CND rod at the Michigan spey clave in April. What line weight is it ? The CND 8/9 weight I casted I liked can't remember its length though.

I cannot use anything over an 8/9 weight here in Gls thats all thats needed for 95% of these rivers if you can spey cast.

Glad to hear you like the 5120, do you think it could handle a 10 lb steelhead ? That wind cutter with tips is what I would need for that rod. I really like it after I casted it at the April spey clave, it appeared to have some backbone behind it and cast some heavier flies and tips. I only used a floating spey line with it though.

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Re: Grouse hunting and Spey fishing new [Re: Black_Ghost]
      #78529 - 10/08/03 06:45 AM

The Salar is 15'6" 10 wt. I am so much in love with that rod, I may buy the 14'9wt and 13'8wt when they come out. They are going to call them the Steelheader and the Skagit Specialist. These rods just rock.

I think a 10 pound Steelie would snap that 5120 into several pieces. I was up on the Skagit and these 5 lb Humpies were all over my fly. I was using that 5 wt and had to be real careful. It was a lot of fun, but switched to my 12'8wt Loop Green line. Felt a little more secure with that rod.

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Re: Grouse hunting and Spey fishing new [Re: Mattzoid]
      #78534 - 10/08/03 07:24 AM

Hal - you CAN catch 'em on a 6 wt. Only problem is you have to fight 'em so damned long that the stress really kills the fish - whether you release 'em carefully or not! And not SOME, but virtually ALL!

Lots of studies confirm this, too.

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Re: Grouse hunting and Spey fishing [Re: BobK]
      #78539 - 10/08/03 07:55 AM

Lots of GL steelheaders in Michigan use 7 weight 10 - 11 foot single hand fly rods. Lightest I have ever used for steelhead here is 7/8 weight spey 13 foot and 8 weight 9 ' single handers. Problem is here we donot catch many small steelhead, most are 8 pounds plus and many between 10-15 lbs and up to 20.

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