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WDFW has been planting Triploids for a couple of years now, supposedly if not caught right away they are supposed to grow rapidly and become lunkers. Now I know they catch some huge ones in Rufus Woods, but has anyone here caught a big trout in one of the westside lakes that they believed was a Triploid that carried over and grew large? Or how about a one that got away story?
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we fished flowing lake on 4/22 and some guy caught a 5 or 6 lber he was trolling a flatfish dont know what color that fish almost didnt fit in the net he had. so if that fish didnt get cought i could see that being a huge fish next year.
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I thought most of the lakes with triploids in them were catch and release only  That makes for some big trout!
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Quillback
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Here's a link to the list of lakes being planted with Triploids - coming to a lake near you!
http://www.wa.gov/wdfw/do/apr03/apr2103a.htm
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Fish4life: I believe that the large trout caught at Flowing Lake was NOT a triploid that had carried over from prior years' stockings. The local fishing clubs have been stocking large trout (some up to 8 lbs., I believe) in some of the local Snohomish County lakes, this past spring, so as to spice up the fishing. (Of course, it is possible that the big fish was a carryover from prior years, but I would not bet on it).
As far as triploids surviving from one year to the next, I suspect that the survival rate is low in Westside lakes. The Game Dept. plants thousands of broodstock in Westside lakes every year, and I have yet to see any caught during the following spring. Survival rate of stockers appears pretty low also (see for example Gissberg Ponds in Snohomish County--it gets 10,000 stocker size fish every spring, but the trout fishing is just about dead by August).
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bait thats pretty interesting but makes sense now those big boys probabie get cought in the first month or two of the season
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I have caught and seen holdover Triploids caught in a snohomish co lake. The ones I caught were about 3lbs.I have never caught more than per 1 trip ,and never on consecutive trips.
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Opening wknd Derby on Lake Tye in Monroe -Apr 27
The winner of the adult derby in the afternoon was a 5+ lbs really ugly holdover. Only one I've heard rumor of that big leftover from that lake.
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Is there any way to identify a triploid? Do they look different? Or are they just bigger? What makes a triploid?
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They look like regular rainbow trout.
When planted they weigh around 1-1.5 lbs. Genetically altered they have 3 chromosome and are sterile. So they don't spawn and loose any weight during the process. They have voracious appetites.
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One thing I have noticed about them is that for a large trout, they generally have an average-sized head and rather small mouth. The mouth looks somewhat disproportionately small--and so you do not necessarily need to go with the "bigger bait = bigger fish" fishing strategy. They also seem to take all my baits deep, unless I am fishing with artificial lures.
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The triploids on the east side really aren't showing up as lunkers either. My theory is that most waters don't hold enough food for them to grow beyond a certain size. The DFW and Spokane Fly Club planted some in Amber Lake when they were pretty young and those fish just don't have enough food to grow past 18 inches in that lake. Now put them in a lake with Mysis Shrimp or Kokanee in large numbers and we may get some lunkers. Otherwise I think the fish expend too much energy to really grow as they chase down a regular trout diet.
The lunker triploids caught in a lot of the put and take waters are often hatchery raised till they become obese slugs and then released which is why they will hit 5-8 pound range. Will we eventually se a lunker in the double digit range out of one of these lakes? Probably. A few will survive and find enough to eat to get big but I dont' think the fish are growing like DFW hoped they would.
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The state record trout was a triploid. So there are some hogs growing out there. One thing to keep in mind is that on many lakes, there is a decent hold over percentage - many people just keep fishing the same "opening day" strategy and missing out. The fish do start getting a little 'smarter' and more selective. Fall is a great time to fish on these lakes. For example, I've been hitting Rattlesnake lake and doing better (and bigger) than I did during the early spring when it first opened. There should be plenty of hold-overs next year.
Also, those big, dark lunkers you see caught are often broodstock. Triploids will remain in good form for the most part year round. Other trout will go through the spawning cycle and color\darken up quite a bit. So if you catch a lunker, but it is dark and beat up looking - it's probably not a triploid.
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hey I fish amber all the time in the spring and we absoulty kill them. big fish some 6-7 lbs. for the size of the lake and most of them are over 24 inches and they are good fighters too. But I wouldnt eat them some of them have some weird growths in them. Not tryin to start a fight just letin you in on how I have done in the past out there
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Hey that is cool to hear that you are seeing some larger fish. I spent a bit of time talking to the DFW guys while they were sampling Amber. The food base crashed their a couple of years ago so they are trying to bring it back and the triploids were of particular interest to them. In their samples they didn't find anything over 19 inches but it doesn't mean they aren't there. Glad you are finding them!
As far as the state record goes, that fish is from Rufus Woods and had a healthy diet of Purina Fish Chow under the net pens. However, I do believe that a record triploid (non Purina fed) will come from either Roosevelt or Rufus Woods based on the food base that is available. there.
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