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Anyone seen one of these yet, I have seen the Templefork trout rods which are nice for their low price. Following was excerpted from a news article.
"If you want to try something really different, pick up Temple Fork's 12-foot-6, eight-weight spey rod that sells for about $300. At about half the price of more famous brands, it has been superb not just for stream salmon and steelhead, but for throwing big poppers and streamers at bass on lakes. They are available at some specialty fly shops or online by looking for dealers through templeforkflyrods. com."
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David Roberts, our local guide buddy has the fourteen footer, I believe. He swears by the single handers and uses them for client rods. Fred, have you seen Dave's?
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New to two-handers, but just recently picked up a TFO 14' 9wt. Pro. series. Don't know what to tell you about it, other than I can't cast worth a hill of beans  , but man it sure is fun trying...
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I have heard good things about these rods but have never seen them. Such is the dilemna of a GLs spey fisherman not many spey rods are carried by local fly shops to see and touch etc..
The casting will come and believe me it is not rocket science as some like to portray it. Get a spey casting video or find a local spey caster to get you started. Read Mr. Evans narratives theres some gold nuggets within them on spey casting.
Good luck !
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David Roberts, our local guide buddy has the fourteen footer, I believe. He swears by the single handers and uses them for client rods. Fred, have you seen Dave's?
-Gus
Gus, not that I can remember. But I know Temple Forks makes several very good rods that (from all I've read) folks seem to like a lot.
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Zo, just noticed your in Southern Idaho. Don't know how far away you are from the Redshed fly shop but Mike has a lot! of spey rods/lines for folks to try, etc. Gather he's an excellent caster.
Give him a call. TRUST ME! Given a choice you don't want to be 'self taught.' Reason is you'll develop a lot of 'bad casting habits;' then things get interesting when you actually get a lesson or two. First problem is to break the bad habits, to get a 'student' to develop the 'good habits.'
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Im about 6 hrs south of him, HOWEVER I am going to the Idaho Fish-In from 9-23 to 9-26 and plan of meeting up with Mike for a day of fishin', casting, lying  , swapin', buyin', the whole sha-bang! He has already pointed me towards a much better directed process of learning. Spent $200 bucks on the rod and can't help but cast it...its like someone put a red button smack in the middle of a wall and tells you not to touch it!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhh the madness......
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The TFO spey rods are pretty nice for $249.95 which is what the price is for 2005. I've cast the 12'6" 8/9 some and like it. If someone is on a budget a TFO spey rod, Okuma Integrity 10/11, and a Airflo Delta or Delta Long makes a pretty great package for $350.00.
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I've heard a lot of good reports on TFO rods, especially by "high-end" dealers, who were given demos by TFO, and tried them out. They LOVED 'em, and all now carry them to provide a high-quality lower-end line in their establishments. These guys are sincere dealers, who want a rod they can stand behind.
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If someone is on a budget a TFO spey rod
I will have to check them out, two boys in college and a third in another year, get the picture every one ? LOL
Its not funny really, but its true you don't need a real expensive spey rod and reel to do spey fishing, spend the extra the money on the line though.
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BG, What kind of a line would you spend the extra money on?
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Yeah, spey lines, not much of a change in "costs" compared to standard one handers. Now there, I REALLY choose to watch what I spend my money on, and buy the better fly lines (not most expensive, but better). Will say, some of the older spey rods that first came out by "gear" companies (and some fly companies) seemed to just be normal rods with an extra piece. I know, though I was a complete spey rookie then, I seemed to have to way overline the rod to cast. Thought it was me, until a few spey experts told me I was almost right on going up a weight or two on the rod I was using. LOL. But with the standard line on the rod, could overhead cast it great.
But I've never been a spey expert. I know how to use it, and can catch fish with it. When I have a rod that works, I don't do alot of upgrading after that. Unless I get a deal (which was my old Sage 9140-3 which I miss DEARLY).
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Hahahaha!!! BG spend MONEY??? Redshed, you've GOT to be KIDDING!!!  Now THAT'S the best joke I heard this year!!!! 
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Well I just spent $ 585 repair and $ 110 towing unplanned dollars yesterday for front axles on my van ! Which was a "necessity" another fly rod and line is just another "want" not a "necessity".
What lines would I spend extra money on the ones that work and I am in the market again. Are there any new lines coming out otherwise its the Rio Mid Spey I guess. Also in the market for a new spey rod, 8/9 weight 13-14 feet.
Later back to Corporate chaos, and beleive me I have right now.
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Awwww....Poor baby!!!
Welcome to the "real world", BG. You think you're alone? We all have problems, but we PLAN around them and don't keep crying about them. Why don't you spring a little bit - just go out and buy a new van, instead of being a danger to others, driving a heap around??
Shape up a little bit. Quitcherbitchin about a little normal, everyday tough luck.
Now get out there and do your part for the economy and spend some money!!!!
Like the old song goes, "Don't worry - Be happy!"
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"Are there any new lines coming out"
Yes, there are, between now and the first of the year.
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I could have died where the car broke down in the middle of one of the busiest tollways and plazas in chicago land, trucks going by, but what do you care. BG kept his cool put his blinkers on and masterfully drove the Chrysler Van coasting no power to the roads shoulder. Escaping another potential deadly accident known to occur at this and other toll plazas. Car is back on the road as of yesterday fixed in less than 24 hours.
Now back to that new spey rod and line need a good sturdy 8/9 weight to throw sink tips better. And a line to go with it so I am in the market in the next few weeks. Any one know of any deals let me know as I am open right now on rod vendors etc. Want a rod under $ 400.
Redshed got any recommendations ?
I am not into status on the river only spey casting effectiveness at a reasonable cost. LOL
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casta tfo spey in may at the clave, kinda soft like a noodle and the components were low grade if you like cheap you will like tfo speys
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Would you like to test drive the TFO 12'6" 8wt?
I will send it for a one week demo. Your only obligation is to send it back via insured Priority mail should you decide you don't like it. The very best way to tell if it will work for you is to try it on the river.
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So PM, Which TFO 2 hander did you try and what was it lined with (head length and grains)? I have lots of two handers in stock (35-40) and the TFO rods are not that soft. Besides even if the rod does feel soft, a lighter line, different line brand, or different head configuration can change a rod's action dramatically.
As for the hardware it is not that bad and every bit as good as that found on any other spey rods in the $250.00 price range.
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I have a TFO 14' 9wt. and even though I am new to the Spey relm, it doesn't fell like it has a soft feel nor the noodle tendicies of single handers that I've tried.
BG, I really like my TFO...
REDSHED, good call on the trial. I cant think of another place on the planet that allows for a person in the internet world to try before you buy. SImply from your rep on this site and the other spey site, I always look to spend my duckets at your shop, especially since it might pass as an excuse to head north finally.
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cast the 12'6" 8 lined with standard 8/9 mid spey with tip 1 in place and tip 1 removed with type 3 sink in its place.
my loop green and grey are pretty fast compared to the tfo. to me it fely noodley, i imagine if i put a 5/6/7 on he rshe would be faster. those loops are quicker than a roger clemens fastball
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Yes, I will agree those Loop Green Line and Grey Line are a lot faster then any of the TFO two handers. You would make the same comparison if you had cast any of the CND Expert Series rods and they are some of the sweetest casting rods made. Also the TFO spey rods were $300.00 for 2004 ($250.00 for 2005) while the Loop Grey Line 12' 8/9 was $850.00SRP and the Green Line 12'4" 8/9 was $580.00SRP. If someone is on a budget those Loops are only a dream.
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You fellows have me all confused now. Best way is to test a bunch of rods on the river but there are no shops with a number of spey rods or spey claves around the western gls now.
The spey abyss how can you determine what you want when you cannot even get your hands on them other than looking at them on an internet site or paper catalog, etc.
Loops look nice too expensive though for me right now with 2 boys in college if you know what I mean.
Maybe I will do a CND ? At least I casted those in 2003, the 13 footer 8/9 weight was good. Believe it was under $ 400 too.
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Redshed (Mike)
Whats the difference in action between the Custom SP 1308 - 8/9 13 footer and Expert - 1308 - 8/9 - 13 footer, other than price. Looks like the difference is in the reel seat, cork, and other hardware ?
The one I casted was the Expert which I liked.
Whats the warranty on these don't see it on the CND web site.
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There is no difference in the Expert 1308 and Custom1308SP except the graphite. They have the same hardware and taper.
The Expert is matte black and rolled from IMG6 graphite, while the Custom is matte emerald green and rolled from IMG 7 graphite which is a little faster. The Expert 1308 sells for $325.00 while the Custom 1308SP goes for $425.00.
All CND Rods are covered by a lifetime warranty against defects in materials, manufacture and workmanship for the lifetime of the original registered owner. Defective rods will be repaired or replaced at no cost to those who are under warranty (excluding shipping and handling charges). Accidental breakage will be repaired at a reasonable cost. Owner will be quoted cost of repair before proceeding with work. See warranty card with rod for more details.
NOTE: RODS MUST BE RETURNED TO CND NORTH AMERICA FOR ANY WARRANTY WORK TO BE PERFORMED, NO EXCEPTIONS.
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Mike thanks.
Now which one should I take a test drive with ? It was definitely the Custom I casted the emerald green blank.
Which one is better for winter sink tip work In your opinion the rivers I fish do not need casts longer than 80-90 feet max most of the time. Would be using T-14 tips most of the time. Probably want the faster one right the Expert ?
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Yes, I think you would like the faster one the best for what you describe. The Custom is the faster of the two.
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